🇵🇰 Pakistan Episodes

Dr. Ilhan Niaz comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Political System of Pakistan, on this deep dive podcast we talk about Democracy, Dictatorship, Civil Service, The Establishment, Learning from Africa, Cuba, Nehru and more. https://youtu.be/66X3mV147JQ?si=CjhmcvyH6IGxQx-e Dr. Ilhan Niaz is the author of several books including The State During the British the Raj: Imperial Governance in South Asia, 1700-1947 (Oxford University Press, 2019), Old World Empires: Cultures of Power and Governance in Eurasia (New York: Routledge, 2014; South Asia edition by OUP), The Culture of Power and Governance of Pakistan, 1947–2008 (OUP, 2010), and An Inquiry into the Culture of Power of the Subcontinent (Islamabad: Al- hamra, 2006). His work has been published in leading international academic journals in- cluding The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society, Asian Affairs, Asian Profile, The New Zea- land Journal of Asian Studies, South Asia: Journal of South Asian Studies, and The Journal of South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies. He also occasionally contributes articles and reviews to leading national news publications. The Culture of Power and Governance of Pakistan was awarded the Best Non-Fiction Book of 2010 at the Karachi Literature Festival and has also received the Higher Education Commission (HEC) of Pakistan award for Best Book in Social Sciences, Arts, and Humanities for 2010. Old World Empires: Cultures of Power and Governance in Eurasia received the HEC national award for Best Book Publica- tion in Social Sciences, 2013–14. Niaz is also the recipient of the Kodikara Award for 2013 (RCSS, Colombo). He is presently working on the manuscript of his next book, New World Empires: Cultures of Power and Governance in the Americas, presently accepted by Rout- ledge. Niaz is Associate Professor of History at the Quaid-i-Azam University, Islamabad. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:30 What Pakistan can learn from African Countries 5:07 Democracy vs Dictatorship in Pakistan 18:45 Pakistan’s Civil Service and failures of the Political Class 30:14 Political acumen of the initial Political Class 42:46 Political Elite in Post Colonial States and East Pakistan Leadership 51:20 Establishment Politics vs Popular leaders 59:50 What did Nehru get right 1:06:08 What can Pakistan learn from South America 1:15:20 Decolonization and Nationalism 1:20:00 What is Cuba doing right 1:26:21 Audience Questions

A special podcast on Pakistan’s first Domestic Payment Scheme, Paypak. On this episode we discuss, Payment Gateways, Transaction Charges, Banks, Financial Inclusion, Digital Payments, State Bank, Buying Pakistani and more. Mr. Umer Ansari is the Head of Business Development at 1LINK (Pvt.) Ltd. He is a seasoned banker having spent almost two decades in the sector. He has held several management positions in major national and international banks – Bank AL Habib Limited, United Bank Limited, Union Bank and Citibank, in disciplines of sales, marketing, product and retail. He holds an MBA from Pakistan Institute of Management. Ms. Shaista Abdullah is a senior experienced professional with expertise across multidisciplinary skills like, Digital Transformation, Digital Strategy, Customer Experience and Loyalty, Business Process Reengineering, Customer Value Management, Customer Retentions and Loyalty and Omni Channel Strategy development & execution. International Consulting experience & industry expertise in Telecommunications, Banking & Fintech. Worked with Deloitte Consulting, Vodacom South Africa (Vodafone group), Telkom South Africa, PTCL Pakistan & Khushhali Microfinance Bank as Chief Digital Officer & led the Digi-Agri finance transformation Program in partnership with IFC. Worked with Munsalik Digital (Fintech start up in the NBMFC sector) as Head of Strategy & Communications. Currently serving as Head of Digital Payment Products and PMO at 1LINK. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 2:20 Why Paypak 5:30 Transaction charges on digital payments 10:46 Paypak cards in the market 16:30 Need for a Domestic Payment Scheme 20:20 Why opt for Paypak 25:10 The financial model of Paypak and the 1Link process 33:30 Data protection, State Bank and Policy 41:45 Financial Inclusion for the Unbanked 47:30 True Pakistani

Dr. Iftikhar Firdous comes on The Pakistan Experience to provide an alternative perspective to state narratives, on this deep dive podcast we discuss Covering Conflict Zones, the Khorasan region, Role of the State, Afghan Refugees, IDPs, TTP, Taliban, Afghanistan-Pakistan border, the Northern Region, Drone Attacks, Osama Bin Laden, PTM and Political Disenfranchisement. Dr Iftikhar Firdous has been editor for two major publications in Pakistan. His career spans over 15 years reporting from conflict zones. He has a degree in psycholinguistics and is an author of several research papers analysing the discourse surrounding transnational terrorist organisations. He is also an accomplished author who has contributed to published academic anthologies on conflict, governance and policy. He is the founder of The Khorasan Diary. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:00 Why call it the ‘Khorasan’ Diary 4:30 Iftikhar Firdous’s background 7:30 Mental Health of Journalists in Conflict Zones 11:26 State narratives and alternative perspectives 17:15 Refugees, IDPS and TTP 26:09 Can you do a deal with TTP? 33:30 Afghanistan-Pakistan border 38:30 State policies in Northern Areas 42:30 Drone Attacks and Osama Bin Laden 50:30 Raheel Sharif and Nawaz Sharif tension and National Action Plan 58:00 Political Disenfranchisement in KP, PTI and PTM 1:03:30 is TTP back? And Afghan Taliban 1:14:10 Audience Questions

Fasi Zaka is a Pakistani political commentator, columnist, radio talk show host, and television anchor. Fasi Zaka comes on for a fun episode of The Pakistan Experience where we reminiscence about Fasi's radio days and News, Views and Confused on AAJ TV, on this episode we talk about the News TV Model, How to Pakistan, PTI, Revolutions in Pakistan, Top 5 Rock Bands, Appetite for Destruction, Battle of the Bands, Coke Studio, Taylor Swift, Bruno Mars, Prince and more. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction and News, Views and Confused 5:53 News TV Channel Model, Newspapers and Spotify 23:00 How to Pakistan and Flying under the Radar 28:00 PTI and Revolutions in Pakistan 35:50 Top 5 Rock Bands, Guns N Roses, Rap and Music Evolution 50:00 Pakistani Music and Battle of the Bands 1:00:16 Taylor Swift, Miley Cyrus, Bruno Mars and Prince 1:07:00 Guitar Players 1:15:30 Radio Days of Fasi Zaka 1:30:00 Idiosyncrasies of Pakistan 1:41:09 Audience Questions

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Absar Alam is a Journalist and former Chairman of PEMRA. Absar Alam comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Journalists having a political opinion, Polarization, General Faiz, General Bajwa, Imran Khan, Nawaz Sharif, the Establishment, The Elite, the Military, Hybrid Regime, Parliamentary Democracy, Media Management, PEMRA and more. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Journalists having a political opinion and Polarization created by the Media 6:00 Judiciary and Bureaucracy compromising with the Establishment 16:00 Establishment, The Elite and The Political Class 23:30 Punjabi Elite, Baloch Leaders and The structure of the Federation 33:00 The Institution of the Military vs the People involved 38:00 Media working for the Establishment to spread Propaganda 46:30 Is Nawaz Sharif now the new Hybrid Regime? How Democracy can win? 56:00 Coalition Government vs a Fresh Mandate; How a consensus can be built? 1:03:30 Kya Nawaz Sharif ko Laya ja raha hay? And Parliamentary Democracy 1:14:43 Media management by the Military 1:22:40 Absar Alam being made Chairman PEMRA 1:33:15 Audience Questions

Rafiullah Kakar is a Public policy and development specialist from Balochistan, he comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Central Problems of Balochistan, on this episode we talk about Pushtoons in Balochistan, the Annexation of Kalat, the Sardari System, Colonialism, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Constitution, General Pervez Musharraf, Murder of Akbar Bugti, Baloch Insurgency, Sardar Akhtar Mengal, Urbanization, CPEC and more. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 2:30 Pushtoons in Balochistan 6:24 Annexation of Kalat 8:42 How Baloch Sardari system was created 18:51 Balochistan’s Central Problems 26:02 Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Balochistan and The Constitution 35:00 Representation of Balochistan 42:21 Musharaf’s murder of Akbar Bugti and changing nature of Baloch Insurgency 51:30 Sardar Akhtar Mengal’s Issues 53:00 Urbanization of Baloch Insurgency and Missing Persons 1:02:30 Relationship of Balochistan with Pakistan Proper 1:08:00 CPEC 1:17:00 Audience Questions

Sahil Adeem comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Hadith, TLP, Islamic Interpretation, Science, Black Holes, Portals, What is a Muslim, Democracy, the Youth, Imran Khan, Illuminati, and more. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Is Sahil Adeem an Islamic Scholar 8:10 TLP, Hadith and categorization of Zaif 14:50 Islamic Jurists and Jurisprudence 20:30 What is a Muslim 28:00 Sahil Adeem’s Interpretation of Islam 45:40 Portals, Black Hole, Science and Islam 1:03:00 Democracy and the Democratic Process 1:16:30 Youth movement, Imran Khan and Democracy 1:25:08 Is Youtube monetization haram? 1:28:35 Illuminati 1:33:04 Audience Questions 1:59:29 Ending on a good note

Dr. Luay Shabaneh is the Pakistan Representative of UNFPA, Dr. Luay comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Palestine, Population Management, Gender Based Violence, Women Emancipation, The Potential of Pakistan and the Rights of the Youth. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Palestine and the United Nations 5:22 The importance of Data and Statistics 11:15 Supporting people rather than ‘controlling’ Populations 15:38 Conflating Culture with Religion in Pakistan 18:47 Supporting the Pakistani people 25:00 Economy vs Population numbers 29:30 Bangladesh, Malaysia and the importance of Education 35:00 Reproductive Education and Double standards around Women 42:30 Gender based Violence 52:00 The Rights of the Youth

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International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/6oEaFEdAXbGe69W6ou Raza Matin is Co-Founder & CEO of Chikoo, Founder & CEO of Brandverse and a Board Member at PayPro. #thoughtbehindthings #muzamilhasan #fintech #startups #ecommerce #success Check out the trainings from Sarmaaya Financials: Training List: https://sarmaaya.pk/trainings/?src=tbt Technical Training Masterclass 2.0: https://sarmaaya.pk/trainings/details?tid=1&src=tbt Fundamentals of Capital Market: https://sarmaaya.pk/trainings/details?tid=2&src=tbt Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Socials: TBT’s Official Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings Muzamil’s Official Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Support our podcast: https://anchor.fm/syed-muzamil-hasan-zaidi3/support Raza’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/razamatin/?originalSubdomain=pk Podcast Links: • Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3z1cE7F • Google Podcast: https://bit.ly/2S84VEd • Apple Podcast: https://apple.co/3cgIkfI

Dr. Pervez Amirali Hoodbhoy is a Pakistani nuclear physicist, author, media commentator, and social activist holding a PhD from MIT. Dr. Hoodbhoy comes back on the podcast to unpack identity, on this deep dive podcast we discuss Israel, Palestine, Religious Supremacy, Immigration, Afghan Refugees, Nationalism, Colonialism, Jehad, Political Islam, America, Bangladesh and more. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Israel, Palestine and States made based on Religious Supremacy 7:51 The dangers of Ideology 17:00 Immigration and Afghan Refugees 27:30 Notions of Nationalism and Partition of India 34:00 Colonialism and Religious Nationalism 38:43 Jehad and Political Islam 44:38 Hamas, Palestine and Israel 55:25 American influence on Arab states and Pakistan 1:04:00 Why Bangladesh is doing better than Pakistan 1:09:00 India and the primacy of the religious identity 1:22:00 Audience Questions

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Dr. Asma Faiz comes on the podcast to discuss Sindhi Nationalism, Punjabi Nationalism, PPP, The Mohajir Identity, GM Syed, 18th Amendment, MRD, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Benazir Bhutto and more. Dr. Asma Faiz is Associate Professor of Political Science at the Mushtaq Ahmed Gurmani School of Humanities and Social Sciences. She did her Ph.D. in Political Science from Sciences Po, Paris (2017) and M.Sc. in Political Science from University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (2011). Dr. Faiz’s research focuses on ethnic nationalism, populism, ethnic parties and federalism. She is the author of the book In Search of Lost Glory: Sindhi Nationalism in Pakistan (Hurst Publishers, 2021). Dr. Faiz also edited a volume Making Federation Work: Federalism in Pakistan After the 18th Amendment (2015). Dr. Faiz is recipient of several fellowships including the Fulbright fellowship, Campus France Fellowship and the Rangoonwalla fellowship. Dr. Faiz also worked with international think tanks such as Forum of Federations and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Writing a book on Sindhi Nationalism as a Punjabi 10:00 Meanings of Nationalism and the Language Issue 23:30 Sindhi Nationalism and Identity Forming 29:44 Mohajir Identity as a Political Identity 33:30 Sindh’s historical under development 36:00 Birth of Sindhi Nationalism and State’s obsession with One-Unit 40:40 18th Amendment 46:30 GM Syed and Ethnic Parties and Movements 52:24 Is PPP a Sindhi Nationalist Party? 1:01:00 Federal Structure of Pakistan 1:03:50 The Ghost of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto and MRD Movement 1:10:55 Benazir Bhutto’s return and PPP 1:17:00 Audience Questions

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi is a Pakistani politician and businessman who served as the 21st prime minister of Pakistan. Shahid Khaqan Abbasi comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Elections 2024, dealing with the Establishment, PML-N's politics, the return of Nawaz Sharif, General Bajwa's Extension, Hybrid Regime, Imran Khan, Tosha Khana, Foreign Policy, PIA and the LNG Case. The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience To support the channel: Jazzcash/Easypaisa - 0325 -2982912 Patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters 0:00 Introduction and Elections 2024 3:00 Dealing with the Establishment and offers from the Establishment 7:16 PML-N’s Politics, PPP and Benazir’s election as Prime Minister 14:51 Has Nawaz Sharif’s Politics been buried? 19:13 General Bajwa’s Extension 21:30 Hybrid Regime, Democracy and the role of the Prime Minister 27:39 2014 Dharna, Military interference and Article 6 32:00 How to establish democracy in Pakistan, The Constitution and the rules of the Game 39:49 Specific Action Plan is needed for the Country 50:08 Nawaz Sharif’s Jalsa, Reality of Politics and Tosha Khana 1:00:21 Foreign Policy 1:04:15 Pakistan needs Radical Reform, CPEC and IPPs 1:17:20 Privatization of PIA 1:22:08 Shahid Khaqan Abbasi’s LNG Case, Biding and Investments 1:35:30 Audience Questions