🇵🇰 Pakistan Episodes

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring her influencer journey with tonight’s guest, Hemayal Attique. How has her life been like? What does Hemayal think about the new influencer culture? What are the perks of being an influencer? Does she plan on diversifying her work? How does being an independent woman in Pakistan feel like? Catch it all in today’s episode. From knowing what Hemayal’s life has been like to what her goals in life are, let’s talk about it all! Here’s an insight to her journey, values and how she handles everyday tasks. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hemayal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/hemayal/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MtBDzSqlnY

Mubbashir A. Rizvi was the Assistant Professor of Cultural Anthropology at Georgetown University and is the author of "The Ethics of Staying: Social Movements and Land Rights Politics in Pakistan". Mubasshir joins us on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Okara farms case study, land rights, social movements, Anjuman Muzareen Punjab, Farmers Movement and the state.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Smog and Air Quality 7:00 Ethics of Staying: Social Movements and Land Rights Politics in Pakistan 12:00 The moral argument for Land Rights 14:50 Ethnicity and social hierarchies 19:30 Distrust of the state 22:00 Resistance Movements 30:00 Land as a connection to several things 48:30 The System is the problem 55:00 Anti-Terrorism laws being used against social movements 1:01:00 Sub-altern 1:05:30 Nehru's land reforms 1:10:00 Landed Elite and Partition 1:16:30 Mubasshir not receiving tenure

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of a music aficionado, Uzair Jaswal. How was his growing up years? What was his thought process back then? What were his majors? How has he got into Coke Studio? What were the major turning points in his life? How ‘Tere Bin’ changed a lot for him? How did it get picked by an Indian movie? How has the music industry evolved in Pakistan? Does he think it’s difficult to mainstream art in Islamabad? Tune in to know about his new album, what’s it about, what to expect, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Uzair Jaswal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/uzairjaswalofficial The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur38L-KDCpI

Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Nighat Said Khan ‎ is a Pakistani feminist activist, researcher and author. She is the director and founder of the Applied Socio-Economic Research (ASR) Resource Centre and a founding member of the Women's Action Forum.  Nighat joins us on the podcast to discuss the sexuality spectrum, how patriarchy seeks to control women's sexuality, using religion as a strategy in politics, the Aurat March, Zia's legacy and why The Left needs to unite as a collective.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:00 Intersectionality, LGBTQI Spectrum and the South Asian identity 12:00 Patriarchy and the control of sexuality 28:00 Capitalism co-opting Feminism  40:00 Using religion in politics5 7:00 Why can't The Left identity a collective enemy? 1:05:00 Indira Gandhi's assasination changed India 1:15:00 Zia is alive in his legacy 1:23:00 The economics of Mumtaz Qadri

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: The conversation in the latter part of the podcast is an open discussion. We may be right or wrong. If you agree or disagree on something, please engage with us in the comments or on our FB group. We would love to know your thoughts. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of art, painting, and digital shift in the first half with tonight’s guest, Abdal Mufti. How has been his high school journey like? How did he get introduced to art? How has been his university life? What’s the story of starry night by Van Gogh? How has been his childhood like? What were the careers he looked for after university? In the second half, the conversation becomes more candid and open for discussion, why his art got canceled, what he has to say about cancel culture. Tune in to know on digital art, exploding painting, society being intolerant, and more! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Abdal Mufti’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/abdalmufti The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of working at multiple global enterprises with the co-founder of ezbuy, Kamran Shaukat. What has been his journey like, personal and professional? What did he do after his MBA? How did he start working at McDonald’s? What are the things learned working at Mcdonald's? What is his philosophy of life? Why had he moved to Malaysia? How did ‘Shell’ happen for him? How did he end up working at Walmart? After working at corporates majorly, why did he switch to E-commerce? What is ezbuy? How it’s going? What has he learned from Chinese? What’s his furniture business about? Tune in to know more on how he sees the growth of China, what Pakistan needs to learn for its optimal growth, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kamran Shaukat’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamran-shaukat-5416a05 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

Dr Mariam Chughtai is the Director of the National Curriculum Council, she comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Single National Curriculum and dispel social media rumours.  In this deep dive discussion, we get into the weeds of the program, from discussing what it is, what it aims to do, and what has people afraid. Dr. Mariam and I discuss the minimum standards for education, the problem with NOCs, Policy Making, Teacher Training, Overloading Islamiat and the criticism from minorities.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Should the SNC be limited to just giving minimum standards?  Is the state using education as indoctrination?  Does SNC do anything to fix the education apartheid in Pakistan?  Is SNC looking to convert people?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.  Dr. Mariam Chughtai is Associate Dean and Assistant Professor at the LUMS School of Education. She is also the Director of Pakistan Programs for the Harvard University Lakshmi Mittal South Asia Institute. Previously, Dr. Chughtai taught several courses at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, along with Negotiations at Harvard Law School and Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School. She has a Doctorate in Education (Ed.D.) from Harvard University specializing in Education Policy, Leadership and Instructional Practice. She has two Masters degrees from Harvard University, in International Education Policy and Education Policy and Management, and a Bachelors in Political Science from Rice University. Dr. Chughtai is based in Pakistan and working on her forthcoming book on the politics of making and breaking identity through education in Pakistan.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:28 Is the Single National Curriculum just minimum standards? 5:18 Getting NOCs and the Punjab Textbook Act 9:30 Punjab Ulema board and the need for a NOC 14:50 Yaksan Nizaam vs Yaksaan NIsab 20:50 Indoctrination 21:30 Teaching religion 25:00 Criticism from minority sects 29:50 Policy making and compromises 32:46 Reforming Pak Studies 38:21 Using Technology: Individualizing education vs a single national curriculum 44:00 Does SNC do anything to change the 3 tiers of education in Pakistan? 49:30 How does it prevent rote learning? 54:30 Teaching General Knowledge in Urdu and regional languages 1:02:00 Teacher Training 1:06:30 Political considerations for policy 1:09:00 Educational Consultancy Business 1:15:00 Teaching Islam to minorities  1:20:00 Is SNC trying to convert Non-Muslims? 1:29:33 Overloading Islamiyat 1:41:00 Madrassa Education

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring reviving economy with imports and exports with the senior economist of World Bank, Gonzalo Varela. How did he end up being a senior economist for the world bank? What is the difference between the real exchange rate and the one we see? What is the world bank’s latest report on Pakistan’s imports? In the last decade, what’s going on with the exchange rate in Pakistan? Why it is important to have import and export parody? Tune in to know more on how to increase Pakistan’s exports and what are some of the export opportunities for Pakistan! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Gonzalo’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gonzalo-varela-6393b425

Live with Amna and Mariam Shafqat Goraya.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience   And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring property investments in Islamabad with the founders of X-state, Atif, and Altamash. What is X-state? How did they think of it? Why do people invest in real estate? What are different investments in Pakistan? What’s the legal aspect of x-state from SECP? What are the different types of funding in startups? Where does their legality stand? What is their grand vision with x-state? How do they make money?  Tune in to know more on blockchain tokens, parking money on investments, their first successful IPO, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan X-state website: https://www.xstate.com/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: You may agree to disagree with some viewpoints expressed later in the video, you are free to share your opinions on our TBT community page. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of an oversee Pakistani to his land and creating content along the way with tonight’s guest, Syed Owais Ali. How has been his early life like? Why has he decided to pursue films? How did he spend his gap year? How did he end up working for Al Jazeera? Why had he moved back to Pakistan? What kind of content he is creating? What are his plans for co-creating content with his wife? How frequently does he create content for YouTube? What’s the plan for his content? What’s the long-term goal? Will he pursue journalism in the future? Are we lacking in investigative journalism and how? Tune in to know more on free media, his take on YouTube and the digital industry, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Syed Owais Ali’s YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/user/syedowaisali

Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Ben Burgis, author, podcaster, and philosophy instructor comes on to discuss why the left is fixated on ideas of moralism, individual responsibility and identity, and suffers from defeatism. We get into a deep dive discussion on performativeness, identity politics, cancel culture and the nationalization of social media.  Is Joe Rogan a far right podcaster?  Was Dave Chappelle's special transphobic?  Who will win the oppression olympics?  Would Ben Burgis kill a baby Jordan Peterson?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.  Ben Burgis is philosophy instructor at Georgia State University Perimeter College, a columnist for Jacobin Magazine and Arc Digital Media, and the co-host of the Dead Pundits Society. He also does a regular segment on The Michael Brooks Show called "the Debunk." Ben is also the author of "Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left" and "Canceling Comedians While the World Burns: A Critique Of The Contemporary Left"  Chapters: 0:00 Cancelling Comedians while the world burns 7:19 Joe Rogan and the collapse of mainstream media 22:00 "Bernie Bros" as a stick to beat Bernie with 26:00 Defeatism in The Left 35:30 Dave Chappelle, The Closer and Transphobia 53:00 Oppression Olympics and the politics of Victimhood 1:05:00 Identity Politics and the vision of a consolidated left 1:22:00 Jordan Peterson and the right making heroes out of idiots 1:35:00 Should social media be nationalized? 1:48:00 US Imperialism and what Leftist politicians can do 2:02:00 Michael Brooks    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring meme culture with the biggest memer in Pakistan, Dr. Naseer Ahsan. He is the founder of Pendu Production. How his evolution has been like? Why has he decided to do medical from Kyrgyzstan? What does he think about the National licensing exam? Are there any problems on the demand side from patients? How did he get into meme-making? How does he see the meme industry? Why memers and TikToker’s have a rift? What Dr. Naseer has to say about free media? What he has to say about dark meme culture? Should meme pages be regulated? How meme is the new form of communication? How does one learn the art of being a memer? Tune in to know more on the nationalist movement in India, mental health issues in society, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Naseer Ahsan’s socials: Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/penduproductions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naseerahsan1/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring economic policies, global trends, and rising inflation with tonight’s guest, Hamza Farrukh. He is the Vice President at Goldman Sachs and the founder of Bondh E Shams, the solar water charity. What has been his journey like since high school to date? Did he start working at Goldman Sachs right after graduation? How has he started Bondh E Shams? How he was able to get into Wall Street? Where does he see the global economy headed towards? Is the American financial system in recovery? What economic policies are being tested all this time? How does he see The US, China, and the new economic trends? Tune in to know more new geo-economic order, what countries like Pakistan can expect, the value of a dollar, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hamza Farrukh’s socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/hamzafarrukh LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hamzafarrukh

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring E-commerce and E-retail startup system in Pakistan with tonight’s guests, Monis Rehman. What are the startups he is currently working on? How did he end up working in tech? Where he was when the dot-com bubble happened? What does he think of Pakistan as a potential customer base? What is ‘Dukan’? What are they currently doing with ‘Dukan’? How are they changing Pakistan’s e-retail system? How are they making advertising effective for SMEs? How partnerships and collaborations are important in startups? Tune in to know more on Dukan, Finja, his ecosystem, and how he sees Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Monis Rehman’s socials: Twitter: https://twitter.com/monispk LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monis

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the genre of rap with the famous, Hashim Nawaz. What was his life like growing up? What was the first song he ever heard? When did he realize he can make his music public? How did ‘Pindi Ay’ happened? How do rap battles work? How Gawky records approached him? How difficult it is to write for rap? Why bragging and dissing is part of rap culture? How was he able to stay neutral in the famous rap beef? How does he feel about the new talent? Tune in to know more on young stunners, success, and rap! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hashim Nawaz’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/iamhashimnawaz/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Tonight, we have with us ‘Anaa’ and ‘Hum Kahan Ke Sachay Thay’ famed actor, Usman Mukhtar. This episode explores his journey from Kuch Khaas to the Pakistani drama and film industry. Does he come from a traditional family? How were his early years? Did he always want to pursue acting? What had he thought about the content industry in his early days? How Kuch Khaas made a huge difference in his life? What Kuch Khaas is? What does he feel about the Pakistani drama industry? Why are we not producing serials like Turkish dramas? What does he think about OTT and Netflix's original content in Pakistan? How ‘Anaa’ made a huge difference in his career? Tune in to know more on Hum Kahan Ke Sachay Thay, the future of cinema, social media commentary, online hate speech, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Usman Mukhtar’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mukhtarhoonmein/

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International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Saif Ali from Dastgyr, this episode explores startup culture in Pakistan. What’s Dastgyr? What is the mafia effect? How to get fundings for your startup? How to raise millions for your startups? What is Pakistan’s image to global investors? What role government can play to support startups? Do we have talent in Pakistan? What’s the failure of banks in Pakistan? How difficult it is to get a credit card in Pakistan? What’s the power of a good credit score? How to sell your product to consumers? Tune in to know more on Evergrande China, loan paybacks, retail e-commerce, microfinancing, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Saif Ali’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saifali1 Dastgyr’s Insta: https://www.instagram.com/dastgyrtech/

Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Dr. Amna Salman is a Forensic Psychologist who has recently completed her PhD from the University of Birmingham. Dr. Sharmeen Khan is a Clinical Psychologist with years of experience in the field.  After the recent cases of violence against women, we decided to bring both of them on to discuss the ethics of Therapy and  the Psychology of Violence.  Why is Pakistan prone to mob violence?  Is cancel culture toxic?  Does 'Mental Health' excuse violence crimes?  Does the news demonize Mental Health?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Ethics of Therapy 8:30 Seeing humanity in everyone 20:00 Mob Violence 32:00 Are we all unconsciously racist/sexist and discriminatory? 35:00 How to protect yourself from the news 41:00 The Therapy industry in Pakistan 55:00 Demonizing Mental Health and Schizophrenia 1:00:00 Mental Health, Crime and the Law 1:08:00 You are not your diagnosis 1:14:10 At what point should a therapist intervene to prevent violence 1:20:00 Risk factors for violence against women 1:24:00 Distinguishing Mental Health illnesses and Mental Health problems 1:28:38 The toxicity of Social Media and cancel culture 1:34:30 Lovism