International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guests, Shayan Mahmud. What different businesses is he working on? How has his journey been? How was his trip to China? What did he do when he returned to Pakistan? How did he start working? Who was their first pitch to? When and how did he diversify into Trademore? How much has AliBaba grown in Pakistan in the past 3 years? Is there investment in Pakistan? How is Trademore growing? What is ProPak and when did it form? Is ProPak growing? Is there a future for the publishing industry in Pakistan? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Shayan’s LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/shayan-mahmud The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Saad Tamman. He is talking about his journey. How was his journey like? Why didn’t he pursue agriculture? Are better engineered seeds being used in Pakistan now? In Pakistan are we investing in modern technology? What is laser leveling? How does a Locust attack affect crops? Was winning the election surprising? What were the major pillars of the program? Is food now out of reach because of inflation? What are performance agreements? Will performance agreements improve delivery? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings   In conversation with tonight’s guest, Faizan Aslam. He is talking about his journey and how bookme.pk started. How did he get the idea for bookme.pk? Was he working somewhere else while this was growing? Who were his first clients? What services did they provide? When was the bus ticket system launched? Did it generate revenue? Did Covid affect business? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode! Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way!   Connect with us:  • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings  • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan     Faizan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/faizanaslam  The Pakistan Pivot podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiES36Nvv08

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the future of jobs with tonight’s guests, Arzish Azam. Where he did his schooling from? How has he started startup grind and Ejad Labs? What was the thought process behind his work? How are they enabling and empowering individuals? How is he connecting people to silicon valley? Why do we not own ex-pat Pakistanis? How has been his experience like working with the science ministry? How important the role of the private sector is in producing talents? How does he see the major components of industry working? And are we heading in the right direction? Tune in to know more about the upcoming events they organize, how the job market is changing and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Arzish’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arzishazam/ Startup Grind: https://www.instagram.com/StartupGrindPK/ Ejad Labs: https://www.instagram.com/EjadLabs/ Future Fest 2022 will be home to 30,000+ attendees, 250+ world-class speakers, 100+ exhibitors, unlimited networking, and 20+ activities all wrapped in 3 mega conferences. You can get yourself register today at www.futurefest.pk The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guests, Qasim Umer. He is talking about his educational journey; how did he end up in Islamabad? How did he get into e-commerce and freelance? In what ways did he increase his income? How and when did he get married? Did covid cause a problem in freelance? What is conversion revenue optimization? How can one invest when in Pakistan? Catch this, his journey, and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way!   Connect with us:  • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings    • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan     The Pakistan Pivot podcast:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiES36Nvv08

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guests, Mirza Burhan Baig. He is sharing his journey into becoming a hacker, how did he end up in Riyadh? How is black hat hacking different from white hat hacking? How was his experience working for big companies? What companies still need to work on their security systems? Why are banks still getting hacked? Is it safe to connect to public Wi-Fi? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiES36Nvv08

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guests, Sibtain Jiwani and Hunain Kapadia. They talked about their journeys and what Smart Choice is about? Are there any plans for new products? What is retail health insurance? How is the uptake of health insurance versus other types of insurance? Can insurance plans be customized? What is the price point per year? Is insurance Islamic? The pay and drive concept and much more! Catch it all in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a07WTzhR3sM&t=11s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Sheryar Baloch. We talked about his hometown and how it contributes to the economy? What did he study? What schools did he go to? Was it hard for him to freelance while living in Kharan? How did he deal with the clash of civilization? When did he earn his first dollar? How does he work on Amazon and what type of clients does he have? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Sheryar’s Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/sheryar.baloch.1217 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a07WTzhR3sM&t=11s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Muhammad Saim Rehman. How has his life been like? What is he studying? How should we react to trauma? How was his experience in BMI and in LUMS? Does studying O/A level open more doors for you in Pakistan? What is the difference between people in Karachi and Lahore? What is Saim planning on doing and how he envisions Pakistan 30 years from now? Catch it all in Tonight’s episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a07WTzhR3sM&t=11s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Xpolymer Dar. How has his journey been like? How did he start his musical journey? Who named Rasp engineers? What is the difference between Rap and Hip Hop? What is freestyle Rap? What are his views on the rap industry? Why does he keep low-key? What is Puthi Topi Gang? Tune in to know more about what his new album is like and much more in tonight’s episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a07WTzhR3sM&t=11s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Hasan Sajjad. What was the environment he grew up in like? His education and career? What did he do when he returned to Pakistan? What was his part in his children’s career choices? What are his views on the Ayub Khan era? How was fatherhood like? How is life after retirement? What is “Acha Pakistan” according to him and much more in tonight’s episode!  Connect with us:  https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings  https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan  The Pakistan Pivot podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5PL3lPPeas

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Mr. Mohammad Shoaib, CFA - Al Meezan Investments. What was Mr. Shoaib’s journey like? What investment options do we have in Pakistan? What is the procedure of investment? What is Meezan ETF? Does the pension fund give more return? Can you take ETF from the stock market? What ratio of people in Pakistan invest? Who is the perfect investor? Catch this and insights into how students should invest in tonight’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Meezan investment’s website: https://www.almeezangroup.com/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5PL3lPPeas

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Talha Ahad. What was his journey like? When and why did TCM start? What is their business model? Did they sustain their core? How free is the media in Pakistan now? Where will TCM be 5 years from now? What is journalism? Will things get better and an insight into what’s happening around the world! Catch it all in tonight’s episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan TCM’s website: https://thecentrummedia.com/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=27s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ayla Adnan. How she was able to access the American side of content? Was she able to convert the TikTok audience to Instagram? How did her parents’ divorce affect her personality? What is her understanding of women's empowerment? What is the organization she started voluntarily? What was her research about sanitary pads? How her school makes her passionate about certain issues? How does she feel like a woman living in Pakistan and much more? Catch it all in tonight’s episode!  Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ayla’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWIzfDBo1D7/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=27s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with a 30-year-old Entrepreneur tonight’s guest, Muhammad Nowkhaiz. What was his journey to success? What did he study? How was his life after graduation? How did Shopify come into the picture? What was Taza Daily? Why did he join Careem?  Why did he change his job? What is empowering Maqsood bhai? Catch this and more interesting insights into Nowkhaiz’s life in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Retailo’s website: https://retailo.co/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=24s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Understanding economics with tonight’s guest, Muzammil Aslam - spokesperson of the Minister of Finance. What was his journey like? What is economics according to him? What has he been working on? What are the structural changes the government is taking? Why is there still inflation and are we moving towards growth? Catch this and insight into Pakistan’s economy in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Muzammil’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/MuzzammilAslam3 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=23s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring his content creation journey with tonight’s guest, Mohammad Kashan of the idiotz. How did he start creating content? How did he get where he is today? What is the story behind the idiotz? What did they do when their page got deleted? What is the thought process behind their videos? Was his family supportive? How was his first international trip? Tune in to know more on Kashan’s views on the YouTube evolution, where he sees himself in 10 years. Catch it all in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kashan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/connect.kashan/ The Idiotz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/shikra123456789 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring her influencer journey with tonight’s guest, Hemayal Attique. How has her life been like? What does Hemayal think about the new influencer culture? What are the perks of being an influencer? Does she plan on diversifying her work? How does being an independent woman in Pakistan feel like? Catch it all in today’s episode. From knowing what Hemayal’s life has been like to what her goals in life are, let’s talk about it all! Here’s an insight to her journey, values and how she handles everyday tasks. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hemayal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/hemayal/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MtBDzSqlnY

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of a music aficionado, Uzair Jaswal. How was his growing up years? What was his thought process back then? What were his majors? How has he got into Coke Studio? What were the major turning points in his life? How ‘Tere Bin’ changed a lot for him? How did it get picked by an Indian movie? How has the music industry evolved in Pakistan? Does he think it’s difficult to mainstream art in Islamabad? Tune in to know about his new album, what’s it about, what to expect, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Uzair Jaswal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/uzairjaswalofficial The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur38L-KDCpI

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: The conversation in the latter part of the podcast is an open discussion. We may be right or wrong. If you agree or disagree on something, please engage with us in the comments or on our FB group. We would love to know your thoughts. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of art, painting, and digital shift in the first half with tonight’s guest, Abdal Mufti. How has been his high school journey like? How did he get introduced to art? How has been his university life? What’s the story of starry night by Van Gogh? How has been his childhood like? What were the careers he looked for after university? In the second half, the conversation becomes more candid and open for discussion, why his art got canceled, what he has to say about cancel culture. Tune in to know on digital art, exploding painting, society being intolerant, and more! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Abdal Mufti’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/abdalmufti The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q