In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Muhammad Bin Sabir, Co-Founder & COO of Uplift AI, a Y Combinator-backed Pakistani startup building AI voice models for every regional language of Pakistan. From Urdu to Punjabi, Sindhi, and Balochi, Uplift AI is on a mission to make sure language is never a barrier to knowledge.We explore:The collaboration with Khan Academy and their vision for AI tutorsHow they’re training voice models for Urdu, Sindhi, and BalochiThe rise of regional-language AI in PakistanHow they’re making AI affordable and inclusive for developing marketsSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sabir's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muhammad-sabir/⁠Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠https://www.daftarkhwan.com/⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Muhammad Bin Sabir, Co-Founder & COO of Uplift AI, a Y Combinator-backed Pakistani startup building AI voice models for every regional language of Pakistan. From Urdu to Punjabi, Sindhi, and Balochi, Uplift AI is on a mission to make sure language is never a barrier to knowledge.We explore:The collaboration with Khan Academy and their vision for AI tutorsHow they’re training voice models for Urdu, Sindhi, and BalochiThe rise of regional-language AI in PakistanHow they’re making AI affordable and inclusive for developing marketsSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sabir's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muhammad-sabir/Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Umair Masoom Usmani, the Founder of Myco, a rapidly growing OTT and creator-monetization platform redefining how people consume, fund, and earn from content across emerging markets.After leaving Dubai’s corporate comfort, Umair built one of Pakistan’s fastest-scaling digital ventures with 30M+ registered users, exclusive Premier League streaming rights, and operations across Pakistan, Bangladesh, and Egypt.We explore:Why Umair left “too-good-to-be-true” job in Dubai to start MycoHow the global media system is broken and what Myco is fixingThe $25 million raised in equity & debt fundingWhy creators don’t make money and how Myco plans to change thatThe future of sports, digital content, and monetization in PakistanSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Umair's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/umair-masoom-usmani-b12ab025/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kickstart.pk/⁠⁠⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠⁠⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Saad Afridi, the Founder & CEO of Scents N Stories, Pakistan’s leading fragrance brand with over 40 outlets, 300+ employees, and one of the top 5 players in the country’s perfume market.From starting with men’s grooming products to building a nationwide perfume empire, Saad shares the story of how Scents N Stories grew from a small e-commerce experiment into Pakistan’s most recognizable fragrance brand.We explore:Moving from beard grooming to online perfume salesBuilding 40+ outlets across Pakistan using e-commerce dataWhy Pakistan’s perfume market is more advanced than Indonesia & BangladeshLocal manufacturing vs import, and how they keep costs lowWhy luxury perfumes cost 30x more than theirsSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Saad's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/msaadafridi/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠⁠⁠https://kickstart.pk/⁠⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Saad Riaz, Co-Founder of Kickstart Pakistan, the country’s one of the largest coworking network powering thousands of professionals and businesses every day.Saad opens up about how Kickstart survived Pakistan’s toughest economic years, scaled sustainably, and redefined what “workspace” really means.We explore:How Kickstart's coworking model actually makes moneyWhy Kickstart doesn’t prefer to work with unstable startupsRenting vs Coworking — Which gives better yields for landlords?Why employee retention is about value, not just salaryWhy experience design is everything for the next generationSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Saad's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-riaz-/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠⁠https://kickstart.pk/⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Syed Zeeshan Haider, the Founder and Director of Dipitt, Pakistan’s No.1 sauce brand exporting to over 33 countries worldwide.A LUMS graduate and engineer by training, Zeeshan began his career managing top tobacco brands before making a life-changing decision, leaving the industry to build something that aligned with his values. What started as a local food experiment is now a globally recognized Pakistani FMCG brand known for its elegant design and high quality.We explore:Zeeshan’s early career managing 3 tobacco brandsWhy he quit selling cigarettes for his daughterThe transition from restaurants to DipittDistribution, partnerships, and brand buildingScaling from local shelves to export marketsSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Zeeshan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syed-zeeshan-haider-4b341916/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠https://kickstart.pk/⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Zayaan Bawanay, the Co-Founder & CEO of TicketWala, Pakistan’s largest entertainment marketplace redefining how events, concerts, and live experiences are built.From selling his own birthday tickets to running a company with 95% market share, Zayaan shares the wild journey of turning a scrappy blog into the country’s fastest-growing entertainment startup.We uncover:How TicketWala became Pakistan’s biggest event platformThe early days with zero tech knowledge Building credibility through small events during COVIDManaging payments, logistics, and large-scale entry systemsWhy Pakistan can’t yet host global-level concertsWhy Pakistani artists are more famous in India than PakistanThe risk-averse mindset of event stakeholdersSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Zayaan's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zayaanbawany/Special thanks to Kickstart for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://kickstart.pk/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Dayyan, a young, super-talented and rising stand-up comedian and content creator known for his sharp wit and humor.From small open mics to sold-out shows, Dayyan shares his unfiltered journey through Pakistan’s evolving stand-up scene, the struggles, the experiments, and the state of comedy in a sensitive country like Pakistan.We uncover:His early comedy experiments at Laugh Out LoungeWhat it’s really like performing live in PakistanWhy Pakistani comedy isn’t growing as fast as it shouldThe cultural, creative, and commercial barriers comedians faceSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Dayyan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dayyan_ki_chussain/Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠⁠https://www.daftarkhwan.com/⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Ali Farid Khawaja, Chairman of KTrade Securities, Pakistan’s leading investment platform enabling thousands of Pakistanis to invest smartly and become part of the country’s growing capital markets.With a global background in finance and technology, having worked at UBS, Berenberg, SafeCharge, and Autonomous Research, Ali shares how he’s bridging the gap between the Pakistani stock market and local investors.We uncover:How KTrade became Pakistan’s first large-scale retail investment platformWhy only 0.2% of Pakistanis invest in stocks todayWhy millions are trading crypto and forex instead of building real wealthHow KTrade hit $6 million in daily trading volume and continues to grow KTrade’s Saudi expansionThe potential for 30 million+ Pakistanis to become investorsWhy a bull run in Pakistan might already have begunSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Ali's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/alifaridkhwaja/⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Sannan Saleh, a filmmaker, storyteller, and creative producer who’s worked with global giants like Comedy Central in Los Angeles before returning to Pakistan. Sannan shares an unfiltered look at the real state of Pakistan’s entertainment industry, its creative challenges, and the opportunities AI now brings.We explore:How his journey from Duke to LA shaped his creative mindsetWhat made him leave a stable career in the U.S. to return to PakistanWhy content distribution is easier than ever How Pakistani TV channels are afraid to take creative risksWhy boomer producers are out of touch with Gen Z audiencesWhy Pakistan doesn’t have a talent problem, it has a direction problemThe elitism in filmmaking and why cinema must be made for everyoneHow AI tools will slash production costs and change creativity foreverAn unapologetically honest conversation about filmmaking, creativity, and the evolving mindset of Pakistan’s new generation of storytellers.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sannan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sannansaleh/Special thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: ⁠https://www.daftarkhwan.com/⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Sikandar Nawaz and Moiz Nawaz - two multi-talented brothers who’ve carved their own creative paths in Pakistan’s evolving entertainment industry.From Bhatti Gate to the big screen, the Nawaz brothers share an honest, heartfelt conversation about their journey - from madrassah life and acting struggles to music, content creation, and the pressures of public life.We explore:Sikandar’s childhood and madrassah experiences shaped his creative driveMoiz’s transition from music to televisionWhy criticism from relatives can either break or build your confidenceThe harsh truth about drama industry payments and structuresHow they learned acting without formal training and found their breakthroughWhy ego and lack of collaboration hold back Pakistan’s creator economyTheir take on Pakistan in 2050 and what real success looks likeA deep, emotional, and often humorous dive into what it means to stay authentic in the face of fame, expectations, and constant change.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sikandar's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sikandarnawazzMoiz's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/moizzz_nawazzzSpecial thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Arif Iqbal, the Co-Founder & CEO of LAAM, a fashion-tech startup transforming how South Asian brands scale globally through technology and logistics.With a stellar background as an engineering leader at Facebook, Microsoft, Pinterest, and eBay, Arif shares how LAAM is building Pakistan’s Shopify-alternative helping thousands of local brands reach global audiences while solving the #1 reason most Pakistani ecommerce ventures fail: logistics.We uncover:Why LAAM is not a fashion company, but a tech & logistics companyHow LAAM enables 48-hour local delivery & 5-day global shippingWhy most Pakistani ecommerce startups fail — and how LAAM solves thatThe $5M+ raised and LAAM’s journey with Endeavor GlobalHow Octane, LAAM’s backend engine, is bypassing Shopify limitationsWith the ambition to become Pakistan’s next tech unicorn, Arif shares his long-term vision of turning LAAM into the Amazon of South Asia — and a homegrown global success story.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Arif's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/arifiqbal/Endeavor's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Abbas Raza Bukhari, a rising stand-up comedian, storyteller, and content creator of Pakistan’s digital comedy scene.From hating Instagram and never planning to create content to building a loyal audience through relatable, family-friendly humor, Abbas walks us through his journey of creative self-discovery, content burnout, and what comedy truly means.We uncover:Why Abbas believes abusive comedy doesn’t work in PakistanThe ego trap of social media content creationWhy comedians in Pakistan aren’t connectedHow his wife pushed him into content creationSocials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Abbas's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abbassbukharii/Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanSpecial thanks to Daftarkhwan for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at:Daftarkhwan: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Omar Shah, the Co-Founder & CEO of COLABS, Pakistan’s leading coworking space platform with over $5M in funding.From his early days at Abraaj Capital to building a workspace empire in Pakistan, Omar breaks down the real challenges of scaling startups, building brand credibility, and attracting global investment in Pakistan’s high-risk economy.We uncover:Why most Pakistani startups fail to scaleThe truth behind WeWork’s collapseColabs’ expansion into the Middle EastThe business mindset gap between India & PakistanAnd the harsh truth: "Pakistan was overselling coworking"Socials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠⁠Omar's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/osshah/Endeavor's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan⁠⁠⁠⁠Special thanks to COLABS for providing us with the studio space.You can find out more about them at:COLABS: https://www.colabs.pkCredits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Muneeb Zafar, founder of Fitted, one of Pakistan’s fastest-growing men’s fashion brands. From starting without retail stores to building a strong D2C presence through quality fabrics and bold aesthetics, Muneeb shares how he built a sustainable business in a cash-burning fashion industry.We dive into:The origin story behind FittedHow to build a brand without big capitalSourcing quality fabric locally in PakistanChallenges of retail vs onlineCAC, marketing strategy, and automationIf you’ve ever dreamed of starting your own brand, or are curious about the reality of building a fashion startup in Pakistan — this episode is for you.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠Muneeb's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muneebzafar1Endeavor's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan⁠⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Jawwad Hasan, CEO & co-founder of Agrilift, and Salar Malik, Chief Innovation & Sustainability Officer at FFC. Together, they unpack how corporate partnerships are attempting to transform Pakistan’s outdated agriculture sector through farmer-friendly technology, data, and modern infrastructure.We dive into:Why Pakistan’s agriculture is so inefficientHow timely data insights are reshaping farming practicesThe Agrilift x FFC partnership modelWhat's next for this partnershipWhy agri startups often leave Pakistan to scale globallySocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠⁠⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠⁠⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠⁠⁠TBT Clips: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠⁠⁠Jawwad's LinkedIn: ⁠https://linkedin.com/in/jawwad-hasan⁠Salar's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/salar-malik/⁠Endeavor's LinkedIn: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan⁠⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: ⁠https://pakistan.endeavor.org⁠In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we're joined by Saad Farrukh, founder of EVEE, Pakistan’s fastest-growing electric scooter company. Coming from a conventional motorcycle spare parts business on McLeod Road, Saad transitioned into the EV space after years of importing parts from China and setting up local assembly.We dive into:The origin story of EVEEWhy Saad chose scooters over bikesComparing innovation in China vs PakistanGovernment policies, localization challenges, and B2B market potentialSocials:TBT’s Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/⁠TBT’s TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamil⁠TBT’s Facebook: ⁠https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthings⁠TBT Clips: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclips⁠Muzamil's Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/⁠Muzamil's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/⁠Guest's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-farrukh-038b3a198/Endeavor's LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistan⁠DaftarKhwan: ⁠https://www.daftarkhwan.com/⁠Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Muhammad Omer Khan, Founder & CEO of PostEx, Pakistan’s largest e-commerce logistics & cashflow solutions provider — operating across Tier 1 to Tier 3 cities with over 11,000 employees and handling 3x more COD cash than any competitor.This episode answers:Why PostEx skipped the traditional franchise modelWhat goes into delivering to Pakistan’s most remote townsHow tech, data, and credit scoring drive modern logisticsWe also talk about team scale, investor interest, data monetization, and what it really takes to operate in low-trust, high-cash economies like Pakistan.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Guest's LinkedIn: pk.linkedin.com/in/muhammadomer56Endeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanDaftarKhwan: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/Credits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

Find out more about Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.orgIn this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Adnan Shaffi, Co-Founder of PriceOye — Pakistan’s leading online tech marketplace that's processing over 5% of the country's total mobile phone purchases.This episode answers:What makes Pakistan a high-risk, high-reward market for startupsHow to attract global VC interest in a volatile economyThe early hustle, exit, and reinvention of Adnan's personal journeyWe also discuss venture funding, consumer behavior, the stigma of buying online in Pakistan, and the massive opportunity still left to unlock.Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Guest's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnanshaffiEndeavor's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/endeavor-pakistanCredits:Executive Producer: Syed Muzamil Hasan ZaidiAssociate Producer: Saad ShehryarPublisher: Talha ShaikhEditor: Jawad Sajid

In this episode of Thought Behind Things, we’re joined by Dr. Saira Siddique, Founder & +CEO of medIQ Smart Healthcare, a digital health platform revolutionizing healthcare access in Pakistan. Before founding medIQ, Dr. Saira led several major health initiatives with the Government of Pakistan until a tragic road accident left her paralyzed from the neck down. But that wasn’t the end, it was the start of a bigger mission.This episode answers: How a life-threatening accident changed her mission Why she left government to build something bigger What medIQ actually does, and how it’s scaling globallyWe also explore the tension between staying small vs fundraising, the reality of equity dilution, and what it takes to build Pakistan’s first digital health startup Socials:TBT’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings/TBT’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@tbtbymuzamilTBT’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thoughtbehindthingsTBT Clips: https://www.youtube.com/@tbtpodcastclipsMuzamil's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan/Muzamil's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muzamilhasan/Guest's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-saira-siddique-62130b1ab/Endeavor: https://pakistan.endeavor.org/DaftarKhwan: https://www.daftarkhwan.com/