Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb, Medical Director Ayub Teaching Hospital, this episode explores covid vaccines and the healthcare system of Pakistan. How has he gotten into medicines? What does he think of the medical system of Pakistan? What sehat Insaaf card is? Is it successful? Where does our public health system stand? How regulation in medicines work? Why students prefer going abroad to pursue medicines? What does he think of that? Is there any potential solution to it? What does he think of the young doctor’s protests? What he is responsible for as a medical director? What does he think of e-technology in medicine? Has our health system revolutionized over the years? Why our doctors lack medical ethics? How his experience of treating covid has been like in the past 15 months? Why people are so against covid vaccines? How long will its immunity last? Are covid vaccines effective? Tune in to know more about DRAP’s ruling, medical advancements, medicine manufacturing, what we need to change in our lifestyle, and what he thinks of Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahsan-aurangzeb-b5549a181

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with AC Islamabad, Awaid Irshad Bhatti, this episode explores his journey to civil services. Where he went to college? What is the story behind Aitchison college? Why he went to Holland? How many countries he has traveled? How traveling is different from tourism? Why had he transferred to UC Berkley? How was his experience of California? How had he managed professional cricket with his studies? When had he applied to Cambridge? What has he studied there? What was he doing in Ernst & Young? How and why he thought of doing CSS? How his family reacted to it? How everybody reacted the to news of him topping his CSS exams? Where were his early postings? What were his experiences of them? Tune in to know more on his opinions on CSS exams, system, change and Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Awaid Bhatti’s socials: · https://www.instagram.com/awaidirshad · https://twitter.com/AwaidBhatti

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Adnan Rafique, country director for USIP for Pakistan, this episode explores peace building, security, state, and democracy. How has he got into the direction of peace building? Where he got his education from? What was his master’s thesis on? What he did between his masters and PhD? Did he started working for USIP right after coming back to Pakistan? Which national security document he worked on with ministry of interior affairs? How did he find the judicial system of Pakistan? Where Pakistan stands in terms of peace building and security? What factors cause disruption in it? Is social media responsible for it? Is social media fueling polarization? What is the reason behind this divide? Pakistan from 20 years back was progressive, how did we end up here? Do we really know our society? Tune in to know more on our democratic systems, post-colonial times, why our systems aren’t defined and where this all is headed as a society! Books mentioned in the podcast: ‘The Politics of Common Sense’, book by Aasim Sajjad Akhtar ‘Pakistan’s Democratic Transition’, book by Adnan Rafiq, Ishtiaq Ahmad ‘Post-Colonial Society’, thesis by Hamza Alvi Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Adnan Rafique’s socials: https://twitter.com/adnanrafiq https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-rafiq-354483a2

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ahmed Sarym, this episode explores Sarym’s journey from being Pakistan’s youngest journalist at 11 to starting his own production house at just 17. How he became a journalist at 11? How has he ended up writing for big publications at just the age of 12? Which school did he go to? What the biggest inspiration for him growing up? How was he constructed that helped him become what he is today? What made him switch from journalism to filmmaking? What’s Qissa Nagri? How is hope taken away from us growing? What was Muzamil’s motivation behind Lolzstudios? How Hasan Raheem became commercial? Tune in to know more on Sarym's upcoming web series, why he shot and reshoot it again, how it helped him grow as an artist and would you like to see him again! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ahmed’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/iamsarym/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Zeenat Ahmad, this episode explores how she enrolled herself in CA despite her financial issues. Why has she wanted to do CA? Was it her dream? What is her family financial situation? Why even being among the toppers in matric and intermediate she didn’t go for medicals? How has she applied to UET? Did she go there? What Ehsaas scholarships are? How did she secure ICAP scholarship? Why she never gave up in spite her circumstances? After academics, what’s her interest are? When she started using internet? Where she sees herself in next 5 years? Tune in to know more on how she is different from others, what issues she talks about on Instagram and how she sees Pakistan! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Zeenat Ahmad’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zeenatahmad_/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Hamza Bhatti, this episode explores career counseling and the lack of it. Where he lived growing up? Why didn’t he go for masters after graduation? What was his thought behind ‘BhaiLog’ agency? Why couldn’t he attend the conference in Belgium? What a communication expert does? Growing up, did he have an ample amount of career counseling? How can we improve career freedom? How to approach ’best career’ or ‘scope’ mentality? What’s the importance of having mentors? How important personal branding is? What are employers looking for in an employee? Tune in to know more about content industry, his opinions on Pakistan of today and Pakistan in coming years, why we think things cannot change for better and how diverse the world is! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hamza Bhatti’s socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hamzathebhatti Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HamzaTheBhatti/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/hamzathebhatti

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Naba Khalid, this episode explores her journey from architecture to photography. When has she started her business? Were her parents supportive? What’s her entry test for architectural engineering looked like? When has she started wedding photography? Has COVID affected her business? Who according tot her are the good photographers in Islamabad? What’s her thesis about? How it can be helpful in future? How important financial independence is? How living in hostel empowered her? What’s her opinion on sustainable housing? What’s her dream house looks like? Tune in to know more on urban fabric of Islamabad, where she sees Pakistan in coming years and what’s the future for Naba Khalid! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Naba Khalid’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/nabakhalid_/

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ali Hamza Baloch, this episode explores fitness and dieting. What he did after A-levels? How his interest in gym developed? How he started coaching? How his father reacted to his passion? How he self-trained himself? How long he has been doing this? What are some myths behind diet plan? What is the difference between dietician and nutritionist? Aren’t they the same? Is diet important with gym? How he came up with the idea of ‘GetFitAthletic’ app? How will it work? How will it make life easier? Tune in to know more on fitness, dieting and when his app will be launched! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Get Fit Athletics’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getfitathletic/?hl=en Ali Hamza’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alihamzabaloch

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Salman Javed, this episode explores civil war. What’s happening recently in current affairs? What’s the history of Afghanistan’s war on terror? Did Afghanistan go lawless after 1979? Was there a proper system after it? What cost of war Pakistan had to pay on terror? When civil war started in Afghanistan? Is it going on war again? What’s US policy for this region? What role Taliban played in all these years? Are there any other groups that control Afghanistan of today? What Afghan people think of Pakistan and its role throughout? Tune in to know more on how important Pak-Afghan partnership is and what can Pakistan do that could change the history of the region! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Salman Javed’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/M_EssJay

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ehmad Zubair, this episode first explores web development and its utility. What industry Ehmad was working in before? What is web back-end? How it works? Beyond WordPress, what’s the technical utility for web development? How vital it is? Is he still working in a company? What services he is currently providing? What is data engineering? Was he always interested in it? Does he see the change coming in with it? Why in Pakistan we still struggle with simplified IT tasks? Why we still have not been able to crack user experience? Talking about freelancing in the second half, why Ehmad think you shouldn’t start with freelancing especially in web? What a fresh graduate should do right after graduation? What he thinks about degree vs. skill? How university is important? Tune in to know more on why he started his YouTube channel, what type of content he is creating and what’s the future of it! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ehmad Zubair’s socials: · Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ehmadzubair/ · YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/EhmadZubair

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Hina Sikandar, this episode explores civil services of Pakistan. What she graduated in? How CSS happened for her after that? Was her family supportive? Dis she took a break for CSS exam? How everyone reacted to her results? Why people fail in CSS? Why Pakistanis fail in English particularly? What are the Qs like in CSS interviews? How many total groups are in CSS? What are they? How many optional and compulsory courses are? Do score defines merit or does elected subject? Was she always interested in current affairs? How important current affairs is for CSS exam? How her experience with postal group has been like? Has she joined the services? Tune in to know more on IMO, her thought behind empowerment & financial inclusion content and why our gender conversations are very performative! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hina Sikandar’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/drhinasikander/

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with NUST rocket team, this episode explores space & its potential industry in Pakistan. How a team from Pakistan is participating in spaceport America cup? What’s a sounding rocket is? Do they have a sound rocket for the competition? What’s the practical use of their rocket? What’s the technological use of their rocket and what could be the possible future use of it in Pakistan? Instead of waiting for government to act, why we don’t privately commercialize this industry? Why we wait for opportunities in Pakistan instead of creating them? Tune in to know more on SPARCO, their plan after graduation, how they see Pakistan today and in next 10 years! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan NUST rocket team’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/nustrocket

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Salman Javed, this episode explores the timeline of Afghanistan Pakistan relationship and why both states did what they did? How the timeline from 1947 to 1963 affected Pakistan Afghan relations? How things git better from 1963 Tehran accord? What happened after Dawood khan came into power again in 1973? What’s Pakhtoon Zalmay? How the period from 1975 to 1979 turned the events? Was Afghan war situation being the reason Zia came into power? What was the involvement of India in all this? How and why 1980’s warlord started? Did Pakistan support Taliban’s? How the rise of Taliban affected Pakistan? Tune in to know on the events of Iran revolution, Geneva convention, Hyderabad saazish, London group, how it affected the overall ties between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Nationalism wave in Pakistan, Al-Qaeda and so much more! Books mentioned by Salman: 33 Strategies Of War by Salman Javed, What We Won by Bruce Riedel & Dekhna Khalifa Choot Na Jaye by Abdullah Azzam Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Salman Javed’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/M_EssJay

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Masroor Ahmad, this episode explores water and sanitation in Pakistan’s developmental sector. How did he end up in water and sanitation sector? What is the new arrangement in Nigeria and Somalia he is working on? Are their government responding well to them? Will Pakistan be a water scarce nation by 2025? Will we run dry? Is this true? Is our recharge more than our consumption? Is there availability of water? What are the solutions to this problem? Is there enough replenishment of water in Pakistan? How big of a problem sanitation is for Pakistan? Is our developmental sector working on it? Tune in to know more on opportunities in developmental sector and how he feels about virtual connectivity! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Masroor Ahmad’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/masroor-ahmad-17212314b/

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ali Shabbar and Wamiq Hassan, co-founders of DeafTawk, this episode explores their journey and their startup on how they are bridging gap for millions of deaf people. How it has been like for them growing up in Pakistan? Was it easy to get education in Pakistan? Why had they decided to leave their corporate jobs? How they came up with DeafTawk? What DeafTawk is? How it works? How they manage finances? What’s the business side of things? How one can have this app? Is this startup sustainable? How they have been able to launch internationally? Are they looking to scale? How they find world and society around them? How does it feel to be able to bring such change for their community? Tune in to know more on DeafTawk, Pakistani Sign Language, how one can learn and register as an interpreter and how they see Pakistan today and in the future! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan DeafTawk socials: · Website: https://www.deaftawk.com/ · Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deaftawk/ · Twitter: https://twitter.com/deaftawk

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Muhammad Iftikhar Khokhar, this episode explores Urdu language and children literature. How much work he has done for this cause? When he started writing? Why he shifted to literature after studying journalism? How is he managing writing and academics simultaneously? When has he moved from Islamic University to Riphah? Talking about Urdu curriculum, why we couldn’t accept it as our own? How he sees the lack of availability of content in Urdu language? What he thinks about single national curriculum? Having multiple regional languages brings diversity, is it a problem or opportunity? What can we do unify them? Is Urdu language being imposed on us? Tune in to know more on his working experience in Baluchistan, what he thinks the Urdu literature is headed and how he sees young generation’s passion for exploring this language! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Hamayun Sajad, this episode explores digital economy of Pakistan. How did he end up in banking sector? How his experience has been like in Australia? Does he think digital boom is happening in banking? Why don’t we have acceptance for digital payments like QR or credit cards? When will PayPal come in Pakistan? What are the hurdles in it? Where does the regulation of banking in Pakistan? What RAAST is? What will be its impact in banking sector? Will banks adopt to it or not? Is RAAST another way to track your money? Tune in to know on blockchains, cryptocurrencies and more! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hamayun Sajad’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/muhammad-hamayun-sajjad-9208176

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Shahid Raza, this episode further explores strategic relations around the globe and how it affects Pakistan. What is meant by superstate? How important Iran Turkey rail link is for Pakistan? What’s happening in Middle East today and in coming years how things will unfold? With UAE’s and Israel’s agreement, how geopolitical situation will change? What’s happening with MBS’s kingdom and USA? Have they become frenemies? With the world becoming multipolar, Europe is looking at post-American order. Where Shahid sees Europe in this new Eurasian dynamics? What’s happening between US and China? Will USA’s new form of propaganda work in 21st century? What’s happening with Uighurs in China? Tune in to know more on where Shahid sees Pakistan today and in coming 30 years! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Shahid Raza’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/schaheid

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Shahid Raza, this episode explores the strategic affairs of Pakistan and neighboring countries. Why he got interested in strategic affairs? How he sees the changing dynamics between India and Pakistan? Is there a nationalism wave in India? Where will it lead them? Where India Pakistan peace process stands? Is CPEC really the next East India Company? Is it a debt trap or Marshal plan? CPEC in Pakistan’s changing economic dynamics and regional connectivity? Why Central Asian Republic is a big deal? Why it is important? Why and how resolving Kashmir Issue is beneficial for India? Tune in to deconstruct Indian airstrike, what’s happening in Central Asia and how energy runs the world! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Shahid Raza’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/schaheid

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Art by Wasif, this episode explores multiple areas of his journey. How long he has been doing YouTube? What degree he graduated in? Is there any commercial aspect to it? How his vlog from Lahore to Delhi got viral? What’s the journey has been like since then? How his interests in drone developed? What’s his digital empire look like right now? Why wedding films in Pakistan aren’t well executed yet? How YouTube content has changed over years and what does the future hold for content industry? What were the reasons for Dananeer’s virality? How different brands and channels stole his content? Tune in to know more on his relationship with Mehru, recent controversy between renowned photographers and where he sees Pakistan in coming years? Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Art By Wasif’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/artbywasif