(0:00) The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois! (3:02) Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens (18:51) xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI (40:36) How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence (46:27) Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome (58:01) Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026? (1:13:12) SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans Follow the Keith: https://x.com/rabois Follow the Travis: https://x.com/travisk Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM https://grok.com https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30 https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753 http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499 https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930 https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news

(0:00) Bestie intros (2:58) Big Beautiful Bill: Senate revision, AI regulation moratorium killed (14:10) Clean energy subsidies phased out: What this means for energy production in the US (25:12) Elon/Trump; US fiscal picture post-BBB (43:26) US dollar down over 10% in 2025 (53:51) Harvard's money problems: bleeding $1B/year in fight against Trump, potential investigation over bond offerings (1:09:13) Figma IPO, Grammarly acquires Superhuman, future of SaaS in the age of AI Get All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/chamath/status/1939049133362319363 https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/jeff-bezos-needed-a-tequila-fix-venture-capitalist-chamath-palihapitiya-sent-a-plane-full-of-it-to-venice/ar-AA1HH5qH https://x.com/Jason/status/1940546432190369871 https://polymarket.com/event/reconciliation-bill-passed-by?tid=1751556469981 https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-senate-strikes-ai-regulation-ban-trump-megabill-2025-07-01 https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2025/ai-regulation-ban-one-big-beautiful-bill-trump-congress/ https://www.npr.org/2024/09/20/nx-s1-5119792/newsom-ai-bill-california-sb1047-tech https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1939762942851027127 https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-says-he-has-struck-trade-deal-with-vietnam-2025-07-02 https://x.com/RayDalio/status/1940507002037240242 https://x.com/balajis/status/1940094433699234181 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/30/business/dollar-decline-trump.html https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/8/april-2025-bond-sale https://apnews.com/article/harvard-funding-trump-investigation-students-bca55ab4ec2d344dc6e01caa2af492d8 https://stefanik.house.gov/2025/6/stefanik-asks-sec-to-investigate-harvard-for-potentially-withholding-material-information-from-bondholders https://x.com/cremieuxrecueil/status/1937644999790985324 https://www.wsj.com/us-news/education/harvard-trump-funding-budget-cuts-1dc5bf2f https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/01/grammarly-acquires-ai-email-client-superhuman https://www.reuters.com/business/grammarly-acquires-email-startup-superhuman-ai-platform-push-2025-07-01 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579878/000162828025033742/figma-sx1.htm https://www.wired.com/story/mark-zuckerberg-meta-offer-top-ai-talent-300-million https://www.nba.com/news/shai-gilgeous-alexander-contract-extension-2025 https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1751571922163

(0:00) Bestie intros: The Core Four is back! (1:38) Launching All-In Tequila! (7:01) 12 Day War ends in US-led ceasefire: what it means for the future of the region (29:48) How markets digested the last few weeks in the Middle East, crucial role of energy independence (39:58) Democratic Socialist Zohran Mamdani upsets Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic Primary for NYC Mayor (1:06:02) Science Corner: Stem cell-driven aging reversal out of China (1:18:09) Market at all-time highs after huge turnaround: bull and bear cases; Next Fed chair? (1:32:49) AI Copyright: Anthropic and Meta receive favorable rulings Get All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Join us at All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nato-secretary-general-calls-trump-daddy/story?id=123197665 https://x.com/whitehouse/status/1938053287535616085 https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/09/benjamin-netanyahu-should-be-careful-about-inserting-himself-too-much-into-the-presidential-race-between-barack-obama-and-mitt-romney.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1936973199734079907 https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/06/23/exclusive-israel-intelligence-iran-call-audio https://x.com/BillClinton/status/1937937455065293017 https://x.com/chuckschumer/status/1937890929689420209 https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/25/investing/stock-market-record-dow https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/M2SL https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MMMFFAQ027S https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gdp-report-first-quarter-2025-declined-commerce-department https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-september?tid=1751083141866 https://polymarket.com/event/who-will-trump-announce-as-next-fed-chair/will-trump-announce-kevin-warsh-as-next-fed-chair-in-2025?tid=1750968570295 https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/anthropic-lands-partial-victory-in-ai-case-set-to-shape-future-rulings-e3560114 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/25/meta-llama-ai-copyright-ruling.html https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulation/microsoft-sued-by-authors-over-use-books-ai-training-2025-06-25

(0:00) The Besties welcome Thomas Laffont! (3:26) State of LA, Hollywood's decline, positivity around GDP growth and AI productivity (10:19) Zuck on tilt over AI: $100M offers, Scale AI deal, hiring spree (23:58) Mag 7 AI Showdown: Ranking the most likely AI winners, biggest stock divergences, and more (42:41) Why Apple is fumbling AI and how they can fix it? (57:02) IPOs and M&A heating up in 2025 (1:16:18) State of liquidity: SPACs, Direct Listings, and more (1:25:40) Amazon's "kingmaker" position, job displacement (1:37:47) Sacks joins to discuss the GENIUS Act passing the Senate (1:52:13) Animal trailer Follow Thomas Laffont: https://x.com/thomas_coatue Animal Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNW5r63oXU Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/17/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-and-failed-to-poach-openais-talent-with-100m-offers https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/10/zuckerberg-makes-metas-biggest-bet-on-ai-14-billion-scale-ai-deal.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html https://scale.com/blog/scale-ai-announces-next-phase-of-company-evolution https://www.reuters.com/business/meta-talks-hire-former-github-ceo-nat-friedman-join-ai-efforts-information-2025-06-18 https://techcrunch.com/2012/09/11/mark-zuckerberg-our-biggest-mistake-with-mobile-was-betting-too-much-on-html5 https://www.reuters.com/technology/china-launch-new-40-bln-state-fund-boost-chip-industry-sources-say-2023-09-05 https://x.com/JoannaStern/status/1933564098291048764 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCEkK1YzqBo https://x.com/chamath/status/1932157508698919320 https://www.renaissancecapital.com/IPO-Center/Stats/Pricings https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/amazon-ceo-andy-jassy-on-generative-ai https://x.com/chamath/status/1935369326321877153 https://x.com/chamath/status/1935740807925100853 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/COIN:NASDAQ https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPOT:NYSE https://x.com/ylecun/status/1935108028891861393 https://x.com/ben_j_todd/status/1934284189928501482 https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0 https://companiesmarketcap.com/microsoft/revenue https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-senate-ohio-brown-moreno-74c4b91e5866215d4201377fefcadad0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NNW5r63oXU

(0:00) The Besties welcome Tony Robbins! (0:23) Tony's background and how it led to his career (8:19) Why progress correlates to happiness, state of the younger generation, biochemistry studies (21:53) SSRIs, psychedelics, importance of personal moonshots (31:49) Maintaining focus while managing multiple businesses (36:37) Thoughts on longevity (42:44) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

**NOTE: This episode was recorded on Thursday, before the events in the Middle East. All-In will be back to cover this situation next week. (0:00) The Besties welcome Tucker Carlson! (4:25) ICE raids, LA riots, immigration debate (46:08) Strong macro data: inflation, tariff revenue, GDP, jobs (1:14:00) Big, Beautiful Bill update: State of the bill, Senate math, how Trump should handle dissent in Congress (1:29:15) War with Iran? Follow Tucker: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932911958254366989 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932632620140990635 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932563726583882126 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932633885822591032 https://x.com/opensourcezone/status/1932861766456738083 https://x.com/iapolls2022/status/1932476702644387955 https://x.com/iapolls2022/status/1933156707275874743 https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2025/06/09/lapd_chief_we_are_overwhelmed_by_riots_no_limit_to_what_theyre_doing_to_our_officers.html https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB994028904620983237 https://nypost.com/2022/09/16/marthas-vineyard-migrants-sent-to-cape-cod-mass-calls-national-guard https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1931896196836081975 https://nypost.com/2023/08/19/biden-sells-border-wall-parts-to-thwart-gop-push-to-use-them https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/politics/fetterman-la-protests-anarchy.html https://www.newsweek.com/trump-tariff-revenue-may-2079077 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/11/heres-the-inflation-breakdown-for-may-2025-in-one-chart.html https://www.atlantafed.org/cqer/research/gdpnow https://x.com/eliant_capital/status/1932886788030541850 https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/11/climate/world-bank-nuclear-power-funding-ban.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1932933894317162546 https://www.jointheresponsibleparty.com/p/coming-soon https://trumpcard.gov

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Jared Isaacman (1:10) Jared's background: billion-dollar founder, pilot, commercial astronaut (7:15) Relationship with Elon Musk, road to becoming a commercial astronaut (16:37) Becoming Trump's nominee to lead NASA, the major issues at NASA and his plan to fix things (31:52) Breaking down NASA's proposed budget cuts, the space race against China, private vs public space industry (48:31) The truth behind Jared's nomination being withdrawn by President Trump Follow Jared: https://x.com/rookisaacman Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114605559474286180 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pv01sSq44w https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1439412791815950336 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaJmUUtr2SI

(0:00) The Besties welcome Mayor Francis Suarez! (0:23) How Miami significantly decreased homelessness and homicides (5:17) Formula for turning Miami into America's happiest and healthiest city (10:32) Addressing overregulation at the local level (17:05) Ambitions for his post-Mayor career (21:39) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Thanks to our partners for helping make this happen! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Mayor Suarez: https://x.com/francissuarez Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:25) The AI Doomer Ecosystem: goals, astroturfing, Biden connections, effective altruist rebrand, global AI regulation (25:17) Doom vs Boom in AI: Job Destruction or Abundance? (52:44) Big, Beautiful Bill cleanup and upside: DOGE angle, CBO issues (1:17:14) US Steel/Nippon Steel deal: national champions and golden votes Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://nypost.com/2025/05/28/business/ai-could-cause-bloodbath-for-white-collar-jobs-spike-unemployment-to-20-anthropic-ceo https://polymarket.com/event/us-enacts-ai-safety-bill-in-2025 https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-ai-existential-risk-industrial https://www.semafor.com/article/05/30/2025/anthropic-emerges-as-an-adversary-to-trumps-big-bill https://x.com/nypost/status/1760623631283954027 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/23/google-gemini-ai-images-wrong-woke https://www.thefp.com/p/ex-google-employees-woke-gemini-culture-broken https://www.campusreform.org/article/biden-admins-new-ai-executive-order-prioritizes-dei/24312 https://x.com/chamath/status/1927847516500009363 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/microsoft-is-cutting-3percent-of-workers-across-the-software-company.html https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1927796514337746989 https://x.com/StephenM/status/1926715409807397204 https://x.com/neilksethi/status/1926981646718206243 https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5320248-the-bond-market-is-missing-the-real-big-beautiful-story https://x.com/chamath/status/1928536987558105122 https://x.com/chamath/status/1927373268828266795 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYFRGDA188S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/03/biden-blocks-us-steel-takeover-by-japans-nippon-steel-citing-national-security.html https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114558783827880495

(0:00) The Besties welcome Nico Rosberg! (0:27) Nico's history with F1, what makes a great driver (6:24) The business of F1 (10:05) Teammate rivalries, why "Drive to Survive" works, future growth (16:48) Post-F1 career, best angel investments, becoming a VC (22:16) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Nico: https://x.com/nicorosberg Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson (2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt (14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality (24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE (32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement (54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes (58:35) Post-interview recap Follow Senator Johnson: https://x.com/RonJohnsonWI Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Today's topics and bestie intros! (2:49) Bond market chaos, GOP abandons DOGE, Trump's big, beautiful bill passes the House (38:15) Google's big week: AI in search, roadmap to diversifying revenue (46:49) OpenAI acquires Jony Ive's design startup for $6.5B (57:09) AI Diplomacy: Sacks breaks down his trip to the Middle East and the datacenter deals (1:15:25) Science Corner: CRISPR breakthrough! (1:23:02) How increased energy production could solve America's fiscal problems Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.barrons.com/articles/20-year-treasury-bond-auction-bba9d889 https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y https://x.com/KobeissiLetter/status/1925253934794342405 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/.INX:INDEXSP?comparison=INDEXDJX%3A.DJI%2CINDEXNASDAQ%3A.IXIC&window=5D https://www.pgpf.org/article/moodys-downgraded-its-us-credit-rating-and-warns-that-recent-policy-decisions-will-worsen-fiscal-outlook/ https://x.com/JessicaBRiedl/status/1925257429408756087 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BTC-USD https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GCW00:COMEX https://polymarket.com/event/how-many-fed-rate-cuts-in-2025?tid=1747933765493 https://x.com/chamath/status/1925568992959492156 https://x.com/chamath/status/1925590496103342114 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/GOOG:NASDAQ https://blog.google/products/google-one/google-ai-ultra https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/what-sam-altman-told-openai-about-the-secret-device-hes-making-with-jony-ive-f1384005 https://x.com/BenGeskin/status/1925579528933372198 https://x.com/DavidSacks/status/1924817118370951238 https://mcigroup.my/top-news/malaysia-launches-regions-first-sovereign-full-stack-ai-infrastructure

(0:00) The Besties welcome Antonio Gracias! (0:30) DOGE updates: Government complexity worse than imagined, how to fix it (9:00) Talent acquisition: How Elon attracted 10x engineers for DOGE, a better model for civil service (15:54) Voter fraud findings: illegal immigrants voting in elections, building a zero-defect voting system (22:12) Fixing immigration in the US Thanks to our partners for helping make this happen! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow Antonio: https://x.com/AntonioGracias Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Sergey Brin! (0:40) Sergey on his return to Google, and how an OpenAI employee played a role! (5:58) AI's true superpower and the next jump (12:23) AI robotics: humanoids and other form factors (17:07) Future of foundational models and open-source (19:59) Human-computer interaction in the age of AI (31:09) Partner shoutouts: Thanks to OKX, Circle, Polymarket, Solana, BVNK, and Google Cloud! Check out OKX: https://www.okx.com Check out Circle: https://www.circle.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffec

(0:00) The Besties welcome Ben Shapiro! (1:53) A Bestie apology to Phil Hellmuth, All-In Poker Tournament (7:58) Trump's majorly consequential Middle East trip: Saudi, Qatar, Iran, and his vision for a "New Middle East" (35:18) US-China deal: is the tide turning on tariffs? (46:33) GOP divided over "Big, Beautiful Bill" due to its impact on our debt spiral (1:18:48) Science Corner: Montana bans cell-based meat, joining Florida and others (1:24:31) Trump's EO on pharma prices: role of PBMs, is this too much government intervention? Follow Ben Shapiro: https://x.com/benshapiro Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-1-2-trillion-economic-commitment-in-qatar https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-secures-historic-600-billion-investment-commitment-in-saudi-arabia https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/05/in-riyadh-president-trump-charts-the-course-for-a-prosperous-future-in-the-middle-east https://www.semafor.com/article/05/16/2025/qatar-commits-more-than-200-billion-in-us-investment https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/trump-saudi-investment-speech.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/trump-says-us-will-remove-all-sanctions-on-syria.html https://www.reuters.com/world/what-have-china-united-states-agreed-geneva-2025-05-12 https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/02/politics/donald-trump-dictators-kim-jong-un-vladimir-putin https://newrepublic.com/post/185836/trump-brags-dictators-orban-debate-harris https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US30Y https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/05/14/congress/the-titanic-johnson-predicts-houses-big-beautiful-reconciliation-bill-will-sink-in-the-senate-00348310 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEBTN https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188S https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/12/opinion/josh-hawley-dont-cut-medicaid.html https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/05/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-announces-actions-to-put-american-patients-first-by-lowering-drug-prices-and-stopping-foreign-free-riding-on-american-pharmaceutical-innovation/

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Alphabet CEO Sundar Pichai (2:58) Will AI kill search?: Google disrupting itself, evolving search to follow the user (15:32) Infrastructure advantage, foundational model differentiation (25:08) Future of human-computer interaction, hardware, competitive landscape in AI (35:29) Energy constraints in AI (41:20) Google's progress in quantum computing and robotics (47:56) Culture, coddling, and talent recruitment in the age of AI (56:50) Does he consider Alphabet a holding company searching for Google's next $100B business? Follow Sundar: https://x.com/sundarpichai Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties intro Philippe Laffont! (2:12) Miami F1 Recap! (12:10) Fed holds rates steady on tariff uncertainty (32:47) Google drops after Apple sees fall in search queries on Safari (56:48) Creating a new Mag 7 (1:07:00) Private markets: Is traditional VC dead? Philippe details Coatue's new fund structure and what makes a great investor Follow Philippe Laffont: https://x.com/plaffont Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://polymarket.com/event/fed-decision-in-june/fed-decreases-interest-rates-by-50-bps-after-june-2025-meeting?tid=1746821096114 https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/pressreleases/monetary20250507a.htm https://www.mlex.com/mlex/antitrust/articles/2337168/apple-exec-testimony-on-search-volume-drop-hurts-google-stock-price https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-07/apple-working-to-move-to-ai-search-in-browser-amid-google-fallout https://blog.google/products/search/statement-press-reports-about-search-traffic https://x.com/EconomyApp/status/1915501252420784499 https://x.com/Similarweb/status/1920026287625658628 https://openai.com/index/leadership-expansion-with-fidji-simo https://files.pitchbook.com/website/files/pdf/Q1_2025_PitchBook-NVCA_Venture_Monitor_19001.pdf https://stockanalysis.com/ipos/statistics

(0:00) David Friedberg introduces Secretary Doug Burgum (2:11) Burgum's background and how it led to his role in the administration (10:56) The state of American energy and how we got here (22:32) America's energy emergency: AI, unlocking potential, China, increasing national risk tolerance (34:22) Burgum's National Balance Sheet idea: How it could help reduce national debt (42:25) Mining, overseeing the EPA, aligning agencies with outcomes Follow Secretary Burgum: https://x.com/SecretaryBurgum Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins! (1:32) How she ended up in Trump's two administrations, history of the USDA (16:56) Trump's first 100 days, what needs to be reformed in the USDA (21:31) SNAP's massive impact on USDA budget: soda, obesity, health challenges; how being DC outsiders helps the Trump Administration (30:48) How she reconciles running a department with a lot of government intervention after coming from a free market background (34:33) State of US farming in 2025, labor costs, opening up new markets, and more (42:11) Working with DOGE, Farm Bill negotiation, stance on agricultural innovation Follow Secretary Rollins: https://x.com/SecRollins https://x.com/BrookeLRollins Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) The Besties welcome Box's Aaron Levie and Flexport's Ryan Petersen! (4:05) Is Sacks back? (8:19) Reflecting on Trump's first 100 days (28:16) Global trade disruption, how businesses are dealing with tariffs (49:14) Amazon flip-flops on its tariff pricing feature, national security issues (1:04:13) AI agents, 1,000,000X'ing AI, and more Follow Aaron Levie: https://x.com/levie Follow Ryan Petersen: https://x.com/typesfast Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-warns-risk-nuclear-armageddon-highest-cuban-missile-crisis-rcna51146 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/30/world/europe/us-ukraine-military-war-takeaways.html https://x.com/Molson_Hart/status/1915248938753392642 https://x.com/SecScottBessent/status/1917697018551754802 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/29/us/politics/trump-amazon-tariffs-prices.html https://x.com/chamath/status/1908239828283777393 https://www.theinformation.com/articles/openai-plots-charging-20-000-a-month-for-phd-level-agents?rc=pxkrxo https://manus.im https://www.theinformation.com/briefings/benchmark-invests-chinese-startup-behind-manus-ai-agent?rc=pxkrxo https://polymarket.com/event/which-company-has-best-ai-model-end-of-2025?tid=1746130417369