🇵🇰 Pakistan Episodes

Abdul Moiz Jaferii is the ex-host of Agenda 360 and the current host of Nazuk Mor. He is a lawyer and a journalist. Abdul Moiz Jaferii comes on The Pakistan Experience for a detailed conversation on judicial reform, the fraught history of Chief Justices in Pakistan, PECA, and current affairs.  Is PECA fascist? Is the Justice system broken? Will Imran Khan emerge as our anti-establishment democratic hero?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 The Zahir Jaffer Verdict 10:30 Justice System Reforms in Pakistan 20:30 Iftikhar Chaudhry, his legacy and Saqib Nisar 26:00 The powers of the Chief Justice 29:00 The system is broken 34:00 Lack of dissent in the Supreme Court 40:30 Justice Gulzar Ahmed and Nasla Tower 50:30 Constitutional Avenue Tower 53:00 PECA (Prevention of Electronic Crimes Act) 1:00:20 Suo Moto Powers of the Supreme Court 1:05:00 Will Imran emerge as an Anti-establishment Democratic Hero? 1:23:30 Editorial policies of News Channels in Pakistan 1:27:00 News as Business 1:29:00 What reforms does Journalism need?

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 In conversation with tonight’s guest, Seemab Saqib Khan. What is Seemab’s role in Coke studio? What was her journey like? How did she end up at the position she’s at? Why did she go to NCA? When did she start working? Was her family supportive of her continuing photography? Was there ever a scary moment for her during that? How is her experience with wedding shoots? What is the thought behind her style of photography? How did Nescafe Basement happen for her? How did Coke Studio happen for her and what was her role? What was the role of the creative associate? What was it like working in the fashion industry? What does she think about the industry in Pakistan? Does the problem lie within the writers instead of the filmmakers? What is the creative community doing right now? How does she see the women in Pakistan’s media industry? Is the modeling industry still suffering? Is this problem exclusive to women or the entire industry? What is her next step? How does she envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode! Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings   • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan   Seemab’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/seemabsaqibkhan/?hl=en The Pakistan Pivot podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guest, Amir Paracha. What was his journey like? Are schools a status symbol now? Where did he go to college? How did he end up in IBA? How was his experience in IBA? Did he know what he was doing back then? How did he end up working in Shell? How can you adjust to the new company you work in? How long did he work in Shell? Why did he leave Shell? How did he get into Unilever? What made him stay in Unilever? How long did he work on Surf Excel and what was it like? What is the brand manager's role? Where did he move next? How would he differentiate working there from Pakistan? Why did he come back to Pakistan? What happened after he came back? How diverse and widespread is Unilever? How was it like taking over in the pandemic? Why and how are they working on Climate change? Has Pakistan changed over the past few years? Why is saving so important? Is Pakistan capable of producing world-class products? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings   • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan   Amir’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amir-paracha-4883801/?originalSubdomain=pk The Pakistan Pivot podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYn77smpSS0&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Mariam Shafqat Goraya, Sajeer Shaikh and Ekta Shaikh join us for a very special episode of The Pakistan Experience where we discuss teesri shadiyan, consent, Valentines Day, attempt a meme review and abort a roast.  The podcast turns extra special when it becomes a behtak with our TPE family. Watch our audience steal the show in this episode!   The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.       Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience     And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience     The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.      Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

Mustafa Akyol, author, columnist, and speaker. The Thinking Muslim,” a popular podcast, defined Akyol as “probably the most notable Muslim modernist and reformer.   Mustafa Akyol comes on The Pakistan Experience for a thorough discussion on Islam, Modernity, Secularism, Liberalism and the Reopening of the Muslim Mind.  On this deep dive discussion, we discuss if Erdogan is leading Turkey down a dark path, Islamic principles, the problem of literalism, Muslim thinkers, Apostasy, Blasphemy Laws and understanding Islamic jurisprudence.   You can download Mustafa Akyol's book, "Why, as a Muslim, I defend Liberty" for free here: https://www.libertarianism.org/books/why-muslim-i-defend-liberty Mustafa is also the author of Islam without Extremes: A Muslim Case for Liberty, long-listed in 2012 for the Lionel Gelber Prize, a literary award for the world's best non-fiction book in English. He became a contributing opinion writer for the International New York Times in 2013. He is mainly famous in the western world for his arguments that Islam is highly compatible with classical liberalism and Enlightenment values, and that Islamic practice and the governance of Muslim-majority countries should be reformed along those lines similar to what previously happened in Christian-majority Europe.   The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.       Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience    And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience    The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.      Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89     Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:00 Erdogan's Turkey 8:40 Islam and democracy 13:40 Concubines 15:30 Can Islam change? 22:00 The problem of literalism 27:00 Muslim thinkers 30:00 Individual reason, conscience and morality 33:40 Apostasy  43:00 Blasphemy laws 49:30 Islam as a political system and secularism 1:00:00 The fight about who the true Muslim is 1:04:00 Understanding Ahadith and upholding the Quran 1:17:00 Are these ideas rethinking Islam? 1:28:00 There is no punishment for drinking in Islam 1:30:30 The laws against Zina in Pakistan 1:34:30 Imran Khan and his ideas about Riyasat-e-Madina

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ali Ilyas. How does it feel to be back on TBT? What has his journey been like? Is it better to do Psychology from abroad? How did he find a job right after his masters? Is it easy to find a good job in this field? How did he get his first clients? What is Forensic Psychology? Is Criminal Psychology and Forensic Psychology the same? What is NeuroMarketing? Is Neuro Marketing common in Pakistan? What are all the areas that Ali has worked in? Is research being done on Criminal Psychology in Pakistan? What helped Ali reach his goals? Would he want to impart his knowledge and findings? How to identify a psychopath? How does Ali envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ali’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mentalhealthwithali/?hl=en The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

Sanjay Rajoura is a stand-up comedian and a cultural critic. He is a part of trio of "Aisi Taisi Democracy and hosts the Youtube show 'Bharat ek Mauj'  Sanjay comes on the podcast for a comprehensive discussion on Freedom of Speech, Privilege, Allyship, Arnab Goswami, Identity Politics and the role of Comedy.    The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.        Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89    Chapters: 0:00 Introduction: 1:50 Why are India and Pakistan afraid of comedians? 10:50 Arnab Goswami and selling hate 18:05 Trolls on the Payrolls 19:50 Growing fascism  26:20 Munawar Faruqui and Zakir Khan 33:45 Are Indian comedians Anti establishment? 41:45 Vir Das and Two Indias 44:50 Modi, caste and privilege 49:10 Identity politics 58:50 Biases  1:02:40 The #MeToo Movement and allyship 1:16:20 Social media and online activism 1:25:20 Consent 1:28:30 295-A, Freedom of Speech and Hate Speech 1:33:00 Raids, Journalism and Comedians 1:38:00 Freedom of Speech and Big Tech

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Sarmad Ahsan. How many motion graphic designers are there in Pakistan? What was his journey like? What inspired Sarmad to start graphic designing? What was his first-ever job? What did he do after his graduation? How difficult was it to study for the CSS exam? How was it like being a Sindhi living in Lahore? Was living in Lahore different from Karachi? What is the difference between Graphic Design and Motion Design? Did studying for CSS transform him? Where did he learn from? What is the major problem with the design industry in Pakistan? How do we solve it? Are knowing the basics important? What is important for designers to know? How does being organized help make things easier? Has being organized helped the team become more productive? How does he feel about the progress of PakistanNow? Why is Sarmad still in Islamabad? What is his take on what One8nine Media is doing? Will he ever make courses that people can benefit from? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Sarmad’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarmadahsan/?hl=en The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Shahbaz Khan. What was his journey like? How did he deal with the cultural shock? How did they start Lolz Studio? What was the purpose of Lolz Studio? Why did they take a break from Lolz Studio? What was his first corporate job? How did he end up in Tera-Data? What is Tera-Data? Where did he go next? How did he get into the Ministry of information and what does he do there? Does PTI handle this? Why did they restart Lolz Studio? How is his life going? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Shahbaz’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shahbaz-khan-894947199/?originalSubdomain=pk The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmClmtAoIeE&ab_channel=PakistanNow

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guest, Saad Khalid. What is he currently doing? What is Tera-Data? How do you manage data? Does he want to get married? What is Saad’s life like? How was his trip to Thailand? Why is there financial pressure on men? Are Punjabi’s privileged? Why can’t we survive on a single income now? What was the concept behind French Revolution? How do you create a system without fascists? Is Pakistan an Authoritarian state? How were the first three years of the economic policy? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode.  Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way!   Connect with us:  • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings    • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan     Saad’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/saad-khalid-68a0a9112/?originalSubdomain=pk  The Pakistan Pivot podcast:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Yasir Abbas. What was his journey like? How did he get to know of Bahria University while in Gilgit? How did he deal with the cultural difference? How did the third semester change his life? Where did he do his first internship? Where did he start working after graduation? What is the youth parliament? Was he working anywhere along with the youth parliament? When did he join the ministry of planning and what was it like? What was it like to go from Islamabad to the UK? What happened when he came back to Pakistan in 2020? What is it like being the Coordinator of Gilgit Pakistan? Is Gilgit Baltistan a province now? Do flights disrupt because of the weather or the airport infrastructure? Beyond tourism how does he see the economy of the region? Will the region be open throughout the year in the future? Why don’t they have proper access to the internet? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Yasir’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/miryasirabbas The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Mehdi Farooq comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss why Blockchain technology will change the world. On this episode, we discuss why the ban on cryptocurrency in Pakistan is short-sighted, Waqar Zaka vs Imran Khan, what NFTs are, and what the future of cryptocurrency will be.   Mehdi is a senior investment analyst at Token Metrics. He helps research early-stage altcoins, and he will soon be moving to their VC arm.  He also has prior experience in global macro research and equity research (US tech). He is currently doing his second Masters in Digital Currency and Blockchain. He also loves hiking, cricket and is passionate about bio-hacking.   The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperienceAnd Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.   Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guest, Taimur Rashid. How did he get into the Tech industry? What is project management? Why did he move to Microsoft? What was his role at Microsoft? When and why did he switch to Redis? What does Redis do? When did he start investing and advising? How did he know how much to invest? What is “SAFE note”? Why is he in Pakistan? How does he see the Pakistani market right now? How should Pakistan build talent? How can we support the creation of talent in Pakistan? Over the next decade will we be seeing a rise in remote jobs? How does he envision the Pakistan of 2050? Catch this and more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us:  • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings    • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan   Taimur’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/taimurrashid  Taimur's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taimurrashid/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast:   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Kanwal Masroor. What was his journey like? How did he get good at design? Are their clients only in Pakistan? Why did he continue working in Pakistan? Do they directly communicate with the client? What is “CxO Global Forum”? What is their plan? What is the solution for the “Talent problem”? Why is the government unable to understand the problems of the IT sector? How to empower entrepreneurs? What mechanism do we need? What is the scope of STZA in Pakistan? Who is preparing the talent that Pakistan needs? Where is the IT industry going to be a few years from now? How does he envision Pakistan in 2050? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kanwal’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/kanwalmasroorb CxO Global Forum’s Website: https://cxoforum.global/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Omair Ansari. What made him come into this field? What was his journey like? Why did he choose political science? What was his first job? How did they handle the financial crisis? How did he end up at his next job? Why did he leave that job? What is the difference between Frontier, Emerging, and Developed Markets? What was his first assignment in Iraq? How does Omair envision Africa over the next 20-30 years? What does he think about China’s interest in Africa? Why did he come to Pakistan? What is ABHI? How long have they been operating? How do they communicate with the client? What is their vision? What is the heart and core of ABHI? What is the fee that they are charging? How do they take the money out? Are they only going Business to Business? How many companies are with ABHI right now? What are the major challenges that companies in Pakistan face? Why don’t QR codes or digital payments work in Pakistan? Who is funding them? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Omair’s linkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/omair-ansari-40494329 Omair’s Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/omair.ansari ABHI’s website: https://www.abhi.com.pk/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg&t=675s

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Sumaira Khan. What was her journey like? How did her father contribute to her success? What was her first job? Was it scary to be the only female journalist going to “Ilaqa-e-ghair”? For how long did she work in Khyber News? Was she operating on the field or in the studio? How was it like talking to the suffering families? Does she have PTSD from these incidents? Why did she switch from Khyber News to PTV? How was Sumaira’s experience meeting Benazir Bhutto before her demise? How was her experience with Express-News? What happened during the Marriott incident? Did she always want to be a war journalist? What was her work in Express Tribune? How is it like right now in Afghanistan? What is ISISK? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Sumaira’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/sumrkhan1?s=21 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDRrNSlf2cg

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Arsalan Ali Shah. How was his journey like? How did “Connected Pakistan” start? What is the business model that they use? What motivates them to work? How did they optimize their website in the UK? How would Arsalan categorize his business? What are the different segments of Connected Pakistan? Are they different than software houses? How do you upscale yourself within the freelancing framework? Why did Arsalan excel in freelancing? Why are they starting Connected Pakistan chapters? How to bring the change that we want to see? How well marketed was the Kamiyab Jawan project? What is Akhuwat? Is the government responsible for everything? Catch this and much more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Arsalan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/syedarsalanalishah/?hl=en The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Etizaz Mohsin. How has his journey been like? How did he get into hacking? How did he clear OSCP? When did he move to Qatar and what happened after he did? What are OSCP, OSCE, OSWE, and OSEE? Has he completed the full series? What is the cybersecurity world? What is OSCP and why do it? What is OSCE and what is it about? What is bug bounty hunting? What is OSWE? What is OSEE and is it the final step? At this point, who is ahead in cybersecurity? What is the situation of cybersecurity in Pakistan? What should a country like Pakistan do for security? Who is protecting us from cyber-attacks? How was his experience in the hospitality industry? How does he see Pakistan 30 years from now? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Etizaz’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aitezaz/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk

Fatima Razzak is a journalist working for the Lok Sujag who recently won the Diversity and Pluralism in Media Award 2021 for her story "A textbook case of prejudice' which investigates how SNC would fuel hatred towards religious minorities in Pakistan.  Fatima comes on the podcast to discuss the Single National Curriculum, her reservations about it, why religious minorities are protesting it and responds to Dr. Mariam Chughtai's job offer.   The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan through conversations.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience      And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience        The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications.          Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89     Chapters: 0:00 Mariam Chughtai's job offer 9:00 Fatima Razzak's story on SNC 12:00 Is it SNC just political? 20:00 Is SNC regressive? 25:00 Is Islamiat only limited to the subject? 33:00 Alienation of religious minorities and otherization 42:00 Representation of Women in Textbooks 46:00 Fears of minorities and extremism 56:00 Are only the elites against the SNC? 1:01:00 Recommendations 1:04:00 The Depilex story

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Ommer Amer. How has his educational journey been? How was he able to make version 1.0 of Dastaan? What was the initial pitch for Dastaan? Why did he have to rethink the model? What is the idea behind Qisa? What’s the difference between Dastaan and Qisa? Are they profitable now? How are they different from other services? Are different packages available? Does everything happen in-house? What is the minimum number of books that can be printed? What does the membership cost? What is their most famous book? Catch this and a lot more in tonight’s episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ommer’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/syedommeramer