🇵🇰 Pakistan Episodes

Afia Salam comes on to discuss the recent attack on Asad Ali Toor, and the history of Journalists being threatened in Pakistan, from self-censorship to disappearances, we discuss what more can be done to push back against these tactics against journalists. We also do a deep dive discussion on human development, climate change and activism.  Is Individual responsibility or corporate culture more to blame for climate change?  Should the global south halt development to reduce carbon omissions?  Is the Billion Tree Tsunami a good project?  Find out on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience. Afia Salam is a Masters in Geography and a career journalist having 4 decades of experience of print, electronic and web journalism. She is a LEAD, FNF's International Academy of Leadership & Australia Awards Fellow, member of IUCN Commission on Education & Communications and Commission on Economic & Social Policy. She is also a member of the national coordinating body for Marine Protected Areas.   She has been highlighting  issues related to environment and climate change through her writings, and advocacy through seminars and moderation of panel discussions and round tables.  She is also a development practitioner, and current elected President of Baanhn Beli and Chair Board of Trustees Indus Earth Trust. She can be reached on Twitter   @afiasalam The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation. We do deep dive long form podcasts to show you the many shades that encapsulate The Pakistan Experience. Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.     https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/ https://twitter.com/shehzad89 https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:10 Journalists being attacked 8:45 Journalism, Self-censorship and Optics 20:00 Young generation gives me hope 27:00 Social media propagandas  32:00 Human Development 38:30 Distrust of the State and Neocolonialism 47:30 Individual vs Corporate Responsibility for Climate Change 1:03:00 How Plastics is affecting our diet 1:11:11 Global South, Carbon Emissions and Development 1:20:00 Dumb Lockdown 1:26:00 Billion Tree Tsunami 1:38:00 Non native trees in Karachi and modernism 1:45:39 Indus Water Treaty, Dams and Flooding 2:00:00 Regional Cooperation is the need of the hour  2:10:00 Kya Patwario nay sirkhez zameen loot lee? 2:13:00 Governments are not serious about pollution in rivers 2:20:00 Meat Production  2:26:00 Cricket Journalism

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Shahid Raza, this episode explores Pakistan’s nuclear program. How nuclear technology started? What's the background? What was the reason for a country like Pakistan to start a nuclear program? How has it evolved? How Babur III operates? What was India’s cold start strategy against Pakistan? Is there any work going on in Pakistan for civil nuclear technology? How capable Pakistan is of that? What is the current global situation for civil nuclear technology? How many megawatts of energy Pakistan’s producing? What is Pakistan’s effort for a clean nuclear energy program? Tune in to know about the estimated cost for a nuclear reactor unit, nuclear capacity building, and Pakistan’s nuclear capability for attaining SDGs! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Shahid Raza’s Twitter:  https://twitter.com/schaheid

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Raheel Waqar, CEO of White rice, this episode explores social change with design. What White Rice is? What inspired them to name it ‘white rice’? What a behavior design agency does? How has he gotten into this space? What are the objectives behind their projects? Why context is important in social/behavioral change? How storytelling can be used as a tool for change? What are the formative years of mind building? Where is our youth coming from? How can we tackle youth bulge? How they were able to bring 11,000 mothers on board for the world’s largest storytelling exercise? How technology can be used in what they are doing? Tune in to know more on behavioral design in the private sector and Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Raheel Waqar’s socials: · https://www.linkedin.com/in/raheelwaqar/ · https://www.whiterice10x.com/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Fizza Jamal, this episode her journey in new media as a woman. How it all began for her? How has she applied to NUST? How was her experience? Where has she done her F.sc from? How she did her masters from China? How empowering her experience of China was? Why she loves it so much? What happened when she came back to Pakistan? How did she end up ‘on-screen’? What is the place of women in our media? How women are being objectified? What she did when she was being objectified? When and how she left news media? Tune in to know more about how she became a meme, her struggles with presenting Urdu news, what is the typical Pakistani news style and why she is a leader! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Fizza Jamal socials: · https://www.instagram.com/fizza.jamal · https://twitter.com/fizza_lamaj

Babar Khan Javed is an investigative journalist that covers the $2B advertising & media industry in Pakistan. Currently reporting via Profit, he is credited with helping the marketing community understand the value of data-driven influencer marketing, the path to repositioning media as an investment, creating a platform for female executives to share POVs that deviate from the status quo, and more. He can be reached at [email protected] for pitches while whistleblowers can reach him at [email protected] in order to create real change.  Babar comes on the podcast to discuss Waqar Zaka, branding, the agency model, media ratings and the Advertisement Industry in Pakistan.   Will Amazon coming to Pakistan really matter? Is the ad agency model flawed? How to brand yourself to make money online?  Watch on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.   The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation.  We do deep dive long form podcasts to show you the many shades that encapsulate The Pakistan Experience.   Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience  The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.     https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/ https://twitter.com/shehzad89 https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh  Chapters: 0:00 Introducion 3:49 Advertising Agency model if flawed 6:00 The media ratings system is corrupt 15:00 Content and captive audience 23:00 Brands and Tik Tok 29:30 Amazon and sehtiya culture 44:00 Corruption in Advertising in Media 51:18 There will not be Amazon.pk 1:00:00 Branding and Digital Marketing 1:20:00 The agency model 1:30:00 Podcast and Patreon 1:33:00 Internal Brain Drain 1:40:00 Disagreeing respectfully  1:45:00 Female Executives

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Asadullah Khan, a Broadcast journalist/Anchorperson, this episode explores his journey into broadcasting. How has he gotten into journalism? What was he doing before that? News media is often contextualized in a very cynical manner, what he has to say about that? Does TV spread fake news? What is the role of television media? Is it just performative? Where do our media stand in ethics? Have we completely lost it? Why is reporting just confine to politics for a large part? Why do we not report beyond politics? Is it changing? Tune in to know more about where he sees Pakistan in the coming years! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Asadullah’s Socials: · https://twitter.com/Asadullahk · https://www.instagram.com/asadullahkhan64/

Ali Aftab Saeed is a singer, journalist and digital content creator.   Adeel Afzal is an actor, writer and digital content creator.  The two juggernauts come together on this very special episode of The Pakistan Experience. On this episode we discuss the 'Dehhari' philosophy, dealing with trolls online, Waqar Zaka, virgin murghiyan, kohta karhai, garmi aur Nat Geo kee batameeziyan!    The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation. We do deep dive long form podcasts to show you the many shades that encapsulate The Pakistan Experience.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience  The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.     https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/ https://twitter.com/shehzad89 https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh    Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Dehari Philosophy 5:30 Dealing with trolls online 10:30 Asal genius Waqar Zaka hay 16:10 Overseas Pakistanis and police stories 33:40 Chup kar kay paisay kamao 38:00 Pakistan say bahar janay kay tareeqay 40:40 GARMI! 43:48 Khota Karhai  52:00 Murhay, Gaye, Nat Geo, Animal Planet 1:00:00 Eid kee Gaye 1:05:00 Boycott 1:07:00 The Noor Jehan Story

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dananeer Mobeen, the ‘pawri hori Hai’ girl, this episode explores her journey before and after her viral video. How she feels about all this new attention? What has been journey before the pawri video? When she made her account public on Instagram? How long she has been making content before the video went viral? Where she got her creativity from? How did the pawri hori hai video blew up? What was the genius behind it? How her family reacted to all this? What was it like for her to receive love from all over the world? How her sister helped her out maneuver through all this? Is something international in works for her? Tune in to know about her future content plans, her upcoming skincare brand, how she dealt with toxicity and how her success is helpful for the whole industry! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dananeer’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dananeerr/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with HEC Chairman Dr. Tariq Banuri, this episode explores HEC and what factors led to his ousting. What was his journey? How has he ended up in academia? Which think tank was established by him? What role did he play in sustainable goals? What role did he play in the formation of HEC? How had he found HEC in 2018? What changes did he want to make when he took the charge? What was the research merit before? What changes did he make to research criteria? How much change he has been able to bring in his 2 years? Will he be able to bring the rest of the changes in his remaining time? What were the points that led to his ousting/removal? Why does the government not have the power to remove him? Tune in to know more about his coming case against his ousting, how he feels about it, his relationship with the government & how he sees Pakistan in the last 20 years, and Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Tariq Banuri’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tariq-banuri-2411762

Tabish Hashmi, Stand-up Comedian and host of the hit show, To Be Honest, comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss his career, the show, and the industry.  On this deep dive podcast we discuss 'Problematic jokes', Political correctness, Marriage, Children, Activism, To Be Honest, The Media Industry, and Cleaning Bathrooms. Tabish also remembers his father and talks about his life growing up.    The Pakistan Experience is an independently produced podcast looking to tell stories about Pakistan, and Pakistanis, through the lost art of conversation. We do deep dive long form podcasts to show you the many shades that encapsulate The Pakistan Experience.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Cleaning Bathrooms, Shovelling Snow and Cutting Grass 7:00 Raising children, discussing Marriage and divorces 16:45 Love Marriage and Arranged Marriages 22:00 Problematic Jokes and woke culture 32:00 Political Correctness and facing hate online 37:00 Age, maturity and babies  40:00 Activism, Awareness and Society 51:00 How are guests selected for TBH? 57:00 Politicians  1:00:30 Gifts and Social Media 1:04:00 Tabish remembers his father 1:16:00 Staying grounded 1:18:00 Media industry mai exemplary log nahee milay 1:24:00 Charity shows 1:28:00 Why is Indian stand up comedy industry doing better   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.      https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/ https://twitter.com/shehzad89 https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb, Medical Director Ayub Teaching Hospital, this episode explores covid vaccines and the healthcare system of Pakistan. How has he gotten into medicines? What does he think of the medical system of Pakistan? What sehat Insaaf card is? Is it successful? Where does our public health system stand? How regulation in medicines work? Why students prefer going abroad to pursue medicines? What does he think of that? Is there any potential solution to it? What does he think of the young doctor’s protests? What he is responsible for as a medical director? What does he think of e-technology in medicine? Has our health system revolutionized over the years? Why our doctors lack medical ethics? How his experience of treating covid has been like in the past 15 months? Why people are so against covid vaccines? How long will its immunity last? Are covid vaccines effective? Tune in to know more about DRAP’s ruling, medical advancements, medicine manufacturing, what we need to change in our lifestyle, and what he thinks of Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Ahsan Aurangzeb’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahsan-aurangzeb-b5549a181

Arif Hasan comes back on the podcast to discuss why Pakistan has struggled in the past 74 years, the systematic destruction of our institutions, Zia's legacy, the land mafia, Bahria Town, forced evictions, Katchi Abadis and Thar.    On this deep dive podcast, Arif Hasan discusses talks about the corruption in International projects, why development needs to be human-centric, how people are evicted from their homes by land mafia, why he feels Defence might flood again this year and the Gujjarnala evictions.    Arif Hasan is a Pakistani architect and planner, activist, teacher, social researcher and writer. He studied architecture at the Oxford Polytechnic, worked in Europe in architect’s offices, and on his return to Karachi in 1968, established an independent practice which slowly evolved into dealing with national and international urban planning and development issues. He has taught at Pakistani and European universities and lectured widely both in the North and the South.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience         And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience     The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.      https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/ https://twitter.com/shehzad89 https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh     Chapters: 0:00 Mulk Kyon nahee chal raha 6:00 Corruption in International Projects 15:00 Why do no institutions work in Pakistan? 18:44 Bhutto ko kyon phansee dee 22:21 Zia ul Haq's legacy 34:40 Economics and Religious Exploitation  38:00 Land Grabbing, Bahria Town and Gujjar Nala 53:47 Gujjarnala and flooding in Defence  1:02:00 Neoliberalism, planning and projects 1:10:00 Katchi Abadi and Informal Sector 1:17:40 Thar 1:33:30 Rural and Urban Sindh 1:41:47 Separate Electorates and the Urdu debate 1:47:00 A Hopeful Future

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with AC Islamabad, Awaid Irshad Bhatti, this episode explores his journey to civil services. Where he went to college? What is the story behind Aitchison college? Why he went to Holland? How many countries he has traveled? How traveling is different from tourism? Why had he transferred to UC Berkley? How was his experience of California? How had he managed professional cricket with his studies? When had he applied to Cambridge? What has he studied there? What was he doing in Ernst & Young? How and why he thought of doing CSS? How his family reacted to it? How everybody reacted the to news of him topping his CSS exams? Where were his early postings? What were his experiences of them? Tune in to know more on his opinions on CSS exams, system, change and Pakistan of 2050! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Awaid Bhatti’s socials: · https://www.instagram.com/awaidirshad · https://twitter.com/AwaidBhatti

Syed Muzammil Shah is a news anchor, political analyst and vlogger.  Muzammil comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the culture of irrationality, how religious extremism was promoted in Pakistan, the damage PTI is causing to the ideology of the youth and debate what is keeping us ignorant.   On this podcast we discuss the News Media Industry, Hasan Nisar, Nietzsche, Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Imran Khan, Usman Buzdar, how dangerous TLP can be, our favourite philosopher, what is keeping Pakistan back and ofcourse, whether or not Muzamil is single.   Please consider supporting us on Patreon:  https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience     And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1  https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience  https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    https://www.facebook.com/Shehzadgs/  https://twitter.com/shehzad89  https://instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh    Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Is he single? 4:15 Professional vs Personal 8:44 Working at GNN 13:00 The News Media Industry 19:30 How to make sure you don't become Hasan Nisar 24:00 There is no value placed on Pakistani lives 28:00 Critical Thinking and following pseudo-intellectuals  37:00 Cancelling Historical thinkers  42:20 Bill Maher, America and Islamophobia 47:00 Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Imran Khan and how much power do civilians have 54:00 How dangerous is TLP 1:01:00 Rationality vs Ignorance Debate: Whats keeping Pakistan back   1:25:00 Musharaf, Imran Khan and Shaukat Aziz 1:28:00 Usman Buzdar 1:32:00 PTI's ideological damage 1:45:00 Awaam ko jahil rakha gaya hay 1:50:00 Dealing with hate online 2:01:00 Discussing Philosophy

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Dr. Adnan Rafique, country director for USIP for Pakistan, this episode explores peace building, security, state, and democracy. How has he got into the direction of peace building? Where he got his education from? What was his master’s thesis on? What he did between his masters and PhD? Did he started working for USIP right after coming back to Pakistan? Which national security document he worked on with ministry of interior affairs? How did he find the judicial system of Pakistan? Where Pakistan stands in terms of peace building and security? What factors cause disruption in it? Is social media responsible for it? Is social media fueling polarization? What is the reason behind this divide? Pakistan from 20 years back was progressive, how did we end up here? Do we really know our society? Tune in to know more on our democratic systems, post-colonial times, why our systems aren’t defined and where this all is headed as a society! Books mentioned in the podcast: ‘The Politics of Common Sense’, book by Aasim Sajjad Akhtar ‘Pakistan’s Democratic Transition’, book by Adnan Rafiq, Ishtiaq Ahmad ‘Post-Colonial Society’, thesis by Hamza Alvi Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Dr. Adnan Rafique’s socials: https://twitter.com/adnanrafiq https://www.linkedin.com/in/adnan-rafiq-354483a2

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ahmed Sarym, this episode explores Sarym’s journey from being Pakistan’s youngest journalist at 11 to starting his own production house at just 17. How he became a journalist at 11? How has he ended up writing for big publications at just the age of 12? Which school did he go to? What the biggest inspiration for him growing up? How was he constructed that helped him become what he is today? What made him switch from journalism to filmmaking? What’s Qissa Nagri? How is hope taken away from us growing? What was Muzamil’s motivation behind Lolzstudios? How Hasan Raheem became commercial? Tune in to know more on Sarym's upcoming web series, why he shot and reshoot it again, how it helped him grow as an artist and would you like to see him again! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ahmed’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/iamsarym/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Zeenat Ahmad, this episode explores how she enrolled herself in CA despite her financial issues. Why has she wanted to do CA? Was it her dream? What is her family financial situation? Why even being among the toppers in matric and intermediate she didn’t go for medicals? How has she applied to UET? Did she go there? What Ehsaas scholarships are? How did she secure ICAP scholarship? Why she never gave up in spite her circumstances? After academics, what’s her interest are? When she started using internet? Where she sees herself in next 5 years? Tune in to know more on how she is different from others, what issues she talks about on Instagram and how she sees Pakistan! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Zeenat Ahmad’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zeenatahmad_/

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Hamza Bhatti, this episode explores career counseling and the lack of it. Where he lived growing up? Why didn’t he go for masters after graduation? What was his thought behind ‘BhaiLog’ agency? Why couldn’t he attend the conference in Belgium? What a communication expert does? Growing up, did he have an ample amount of career counseling? How can we improve career freedom? How to approach ’best career’ or ‘scope’ mentality? What’s the importance of having mentors? How important personal branding is? What are employers looking for in an employee? Tune in to know more about content industry, his opinions on Pakistan of today and Pakistan in coming years, why we think things cannot change for better and how diverse the world is! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hamza Bhatti’s socials: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hamzathebhatti Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HamzaTheBhatti/ YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/hamzathebhatti

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Naba Khalid, this episode explores her journey from architecture to photography. When has she started her business? Were her parents supportive? What’s her entry test for architectural engineering looked like? When has she started wedding photography? Has COVID affected her business? Who according tot her are the good photographers in Islamabad? What’s her thesis about? How it can be helpful in future? How important financial independence is? How living in hostel empowered her? What’s her opinion on sustainable housing? What’s her dream house looks like? Tune in to know more on urban fabric of Islamabad, where she sees Pakistan in coming years and what’s the future for Naba Khalid! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Naba Khalid’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/nabakhalid_/

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with Ali Hamza Baloch, this episode explores fitness and dieting. What he did after A-levels? How his interest in gym developed? How he started coaching? How his father reacted to his passion? How he self-trained himself? How long he has been doing this? What are some myths behind diet plan? What is the difference between dietician and nutritionist? Aren’t they the same? Is diet important with gym? How he came up with the idea of ‘GetFitAthletic’ app? How will it work? How will it make life easier? Tune in to know more on fitness, dieting and when his app will be launched! Follow us on Instagram: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Get Fit Athletics’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getfitathletic/?hl=en Ali Hamza’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alihamzabaloch