🇵🇰 Pakistan Episodes

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings  In conversation with tonight’s guest, Syed Hasan Sajjad. What was the environment he grew up in like? His education and career? What did he do when he returned to Pakistan? What was his part in his children’s career choices? What are his views on the Ayub Khan era? How was fatherhood like? How is life after retirement? What is “Acha Pakistan” according to him and much more in tonight’s episode!  Connect with us:  https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings  https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan  The Pakistan Pivot podcast:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5PL3lPPeas

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Mr. Mohammad Shoaib, CFA - Al Meezan Investments. What was Mr. Shoaib’s journey like? What investment options do we have in Pakistan? What is the procedure of investment? What is Meezan ETF? Does the pension fund give more return? Can you take ETF from the stock market? What ratio of people in Pakistan invest? Who is the perfect investor? Catch this and insights into how students should invest in tonight’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Meezan investment’s website: https://www.almeezangroup.com/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5PL3lPPeas

Live with the organizers and students leaders of the Student Solidarity March to discuss why they are protesting!  Live with Progressive Students Collective.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience   And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Talha Ahad. What was his journey like? When and why did TCM start? What is their business model? Did they sustain their core? How free is the media in Pakistan now? Where will TCM be 5 years from now? What is journalism? Will things get better and an insight into what’s happening around the world! Catch it all in tonight’s episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan TCM’s website: https://thecentrummedia.com/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=27s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight’s guest, Ayla Adnan. How she was able to access the American side of content? Was she able to convert the TikTok audience to Instagram? How did her parents’ divorce affect her personality? What is her understanding of women's empowerment? What is the organization she started voluntarily? What was her research about sanitary pads? How her school makes her passionate about certain issues? How does she feel like a woman living in Pakistan and much more? Catch it all in tonight’s episode!  Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Ayla’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/CWIzfDBo1D7/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=27s

Author, Professor and Historian, Kamran Asdar Ali joins us for a deep dive podcast on the history of the left in Pakistan.   Why did class politics not take root in Pakistan?   What do we see so many nationalists movement in Pakistan?  What has been the politics in Karachi?  Kamran Asdar Ali and I discuss the Rawalpindi Conspiracy Case, Muslim Nationalism, Faiz Ahmed Faiz and Jinnah's politics on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.  Kamran Asdar Ali is professor of anthropology, Middle East Studies and Asian Studies at UofT Austin. . He served as the the Director of the South Asia Institute at the University of Texas, Austin (2011-2017).  He is the author of Planning the Family in Egypt: New Bodies, New Selves (UT Press, 2002) and the co-editor of Gendering Urban Space in the Middle East, South Asia and Africa (Palgrave 2008), Comparing Cities: Middle East and South Asia (Oxford 2009) and Gender, Politics, and Performance in South Asia (Oxford 2015). He has been a member of the Institute for Advanced Study at Princeton (1998-99), a senior fellow at ISIM, University of Leiden (2005) and a fellow at the Wissenschaftskolleg at Berlin (2010-2011). He has published several articles on issues of health and gender in Egypt and on ethnicity, class politics, sexuality and popular culture in Pakistan. His more recent book is Communism in Pakistan: Politics and Class Activism 1947-1972 (IB Tauris and Oxford, 2015).     Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.           Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience        And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience            The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.             Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89     Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Question of Muslim Nationalism 14:00 Nation states, nationalities and 'quomiyat' 19:30 Jinnah's politics 24:30 Politics of Constituency: Sajjad Zaheer and the Communist Party of Pakistan 35:30 Identity Politics and class being the only criteria 44:40 Quamiyat, Mazhaab and the State using religion 53:00 Rawalpindi Conspiracy Case 1:01:00 Progressives and Perverts: The Middle Class Morality 1:09:00 UT Austin Ben Shapiro Edition? 1:11:30 Faiz and Jalib  1:17:30 Using religion as a strategy 1:26:30 Politics of Karachi 1:45:00 Daily Wage Labourers 1:51:30 Karachi is a port city without a port culture1

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with a 30-year-old Entrepreneur tonight’s guest, Muhammad Nowkhaiz. What was his journey to success? What did he study? How was his life after graduation? How did Shopify come into the picture? What was Taza Daily? Why did he join Careem?  Why did he change his job? What is empowering Maqsood bhai? Catch this and more interesting insights into Nowkhaiz’s life in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Retailo’s website: https://retailo.co/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=24s

On the 140th episode of the TPE Series, and the first episode of The Sports Experience series, one of our favourite people in the world, Ali Aftab Saeed comes back on the podcast to discuss Pakistani Cricket, Match Fixing, Muhammad Aamir, Shohaib Akhtar vs Nauman Niaz, The Ahmed Hasan Rana Interview, and the legend that is Aamir Liaquat.  Ali Aftab Saeed is a content creator, cultural commentator, analyst and host.    Kya Cricket mai captain ka koi role hota hay?  Toss Factor kaisay fix karay?   Kya jo giyara keltay hain woh waqayee best XI hay?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.      Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience    And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience      The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.       Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89   Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:30 Aamir Liaquat 4:00 Nauman Niaz vs Shohaib Akhtar 9:30 Heartbreak of being a Pakistani cricket fan 12:00 Economy, Air quality and industries 17:30  Fixing the toss Factor and the role of the Captain 22:00 Neutral Pitches and Umpires 25:30 Racism and Banter 28:00 Vs India in T20 World Cup 31:00 Kya ye giyara best hay? Selection issues 40:30 Asif Ali Apology Form 43:00 Muhammad Aamir and team morale 52:00 Match Fixing 53:40 Hasan Ali ka badla aur cake cutting and hair cutting 56:00 Ahmed Hasan Rana 108:50 Snooker Club 1:12:00 Conclusion

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Understanding economics with tonight’s guest, Muzammil Aslam - spokesperson of the Minister of Finance. What was his journey like? What is economics according to him? What has he been working on? What are the structural changes the government is taking? Why is there still inflation and are we moving towards growth? Catch this and insight into Pakistan’s economy in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Muzammil’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/MuzzammilAslam3 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps&t=23s

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring his content creation journey with tonight’s guest, Mohammad Kashan of the idiotz. How did he start creating content? How did he get where he is today? What is the story behind the idiotz? What did they do when their page got deleted? What is the thought process behind their videos? Was his family supportive? How was his first international trip? Tune in to know more on Kashan’s views on the YouTube evolution, where he sees himself in 10 years. Catch it all in today’s episode! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kashan’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/connect.kashan/ The Idiotz YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/shikra123456789 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c9K50ZVaps

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring her influencer journey with tonight’s guest, Hemayal Attique. How has her life been like? What does Hemayal think about the new influencer culture? What are the perks of being an influencer? Does she plan on diversifying her work? How does being an independent woman in Pakistan feel like? Catch it all in today’s episode. From knowing what Hemayal’s life has been like to what her goals in life are, let’s talk about it all! Here’s an insight to her journey, values and how she handles everyday tasks. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Hemayal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/hemayal/ The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MtBDzSqlnY

Mubbashir A. Rizvi was the Assistant Professor of Cultural Anthropology at Georgetown University and is the author of "The Ethics of Staying: Social Movements and Land Rights Politics in Pakistan". Mubasshir joins us on The Pakistan Experience to discuss Okara farms case study, land rights, social movements, Anjuman Muzareen Punjab, Farmers Movement and the state.    Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 2:00 Smog and Air Quality 7:00 Ethics of Staying: Social Movements and Land Rights Politics in Pakistan 12:00 The moral argument for Land Rights 14:50 Ethnicity and social hierarchies 19:30 Distrust of the state 22:00 Resistance Movements 30:00 Land as a connection to several things 48:30 The System is the problem 55:00 Anti-Terrorism laws being used against social movements 1:01:00 Sub-altern 1:05:30 Nehru's land reforms 1:10:00 Landed Elite and Partition 1:16:30 Mubasshir not receiving tenure

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of a music aficionado, Uzair Jaswal. How was his growing up years? What was his thought process back then? What were his majors? How has he got into Coke Studio? What were the major turning points in his life? How ‘Tere Bin’ changed a lot for him? How did it get picked by an Indian movie? How has the music industry evolved in Pakistan? Does he think it’s difficult to mainstream art in Islamabad? Tune in to know about his new album, what’s it about, what to expect, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Uzair Jaswal’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/uzairjaswalofficial The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ur38L-KDCpI

Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Nighat Said Khan ‎ is a Pakistani feminist activist, researcher and author. She is the director and founder of the Applied Socio-Economic Research (ASR) Resource Centre and a founding member of the Women's Action Forum.  Nighat joins us on the podcast to discuss the sexuality spectrum, how patriarchy seeks to control women's sexuality, using religion as a strategy in politics, the Aurat March, Zia's legacy and why The Left needs to unite as a collective.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89  Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:00 Intersectionality, LGBTQI Spectrum and the South Asian identity 12:00 Patriarchy and the control of sexuality 28:00 Capitalism co-opting Feminism  40:00 Using religion in politics5 7:00 Why can't The Left identity a collective enemy? 1:05:00 Indira Gandhi's assasination changed India 1:15:00 Zia is alive in his legacy 1:23:00 The economics of Mumtaz Qadri

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 DISCLAIMER: The conversation in the latter part of the podcast is an open discussion. We may be right or wrong. If you agree or disagree on something, please engage with us in the comments or on our FB group. We would love to know your thoughts. Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of art, painting, and digital shift in the first half with tonight’s guest, Abdal Mufti. How has been his high school journey like? How did he get introduced to art? How has been his university life? What’s the story of starry night by Van Gogh? How has been his childhood like? What were the careers he looked for after university? In the second half, the conversation becomes more candid and open for discussion, why his art got canceled, what he has to say about cancel culture. Tune in to know on digital art, exploding painting, society being intolerant, and more! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Abdal Mufti’s Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/abdalmufti The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring the journey of working at multiple global enterprises with the co-founder of ezbuy, Kamran Shaukat. What has been his journey like, personal and professional? What did he do after his MBA? How did he start working at McDonald’s? What are the things learned working at Mcdonald's? What is his philosophy of life? Why had he moved to Malaysia? How did ‘Shell’ happen for him? How did he end up working at Walmart? After working at corporates majorly, why did he switch to E-commerce? What is ezbuy? How it’s going? What has he learned from Chinese? What’s his furniture business about? Tune in to know more on how he sees the growth of China, what Pakistan needs to learn for its optimal growth, and how he envisions Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Kamran Shaukat’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kamran-shaukat-5416a05 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5TBRRZm78Q

Dr Mariam Chughtai is the Director of the National Curriculum Council, she comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Single National Curriculum and dispel social media rumours.  In this deep dive discussion, we get into the weeds of the program, from discussing what it is, what it aims to do, and what has people afraid. Dr. Mariam and I discuss the minimum standards for education, the problem with NOCs, Policy Making, Teacher Training, Overloading Islamiat and the criticism from minorities.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience Should the SNC be limited to just giving minimum standards?  Is the state using education as indoctrination?  Does SNC do anything to fix the education apartheid in Pakistan?  Is SNC looking to convert people?  Find out this and more on this week's episode of The Pakistan Experience.  Dr. Mariam Chughtai is Associate Dean and Assistant Professor at the LUMS School of Education. She is also the Director of Pakistan Programs for the Harvard University Lakshmi Mittal South Asia Institute. Previously, Dr. Chughtai taught several courses at the Harvard Graduate School of Education, along with Negotiations at Harvard Law School and Leadership at Harvard Kennedy School. She has a Doctorate in Education (Ed.D.) from Harvard University specializing in Education Policy, Leadership and Instructional Practice. She has two Masters degrees from Harvard University, in International Education Policy and Education Policy and Management, and a Bachelors in Political Science from Rice University. Dr. Chughtai is based in Pakistan and working on her forthcoming book on the politics of making and breaking identity through education in Pakistan.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience  And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89 Chapters: 0:00 Introduction 1:28 Is the Single National Curriculum just minimum standards? 5:18 Getting NOCs and the Punjab Textbook Act 9:30 Punjab Ulema board and the need for a NOC 14:50 Yaksan Nizaam vs Yaksaan NIsab 20:50 Indoctrination 21:30 Teaching religion 25:00 Criticism from minority sects 29:50 Policy making and compromises 32:46 Reforming Pak Studies 38:21 Using Technology: Individualizing education vs a single national curriculum 44:00 Does SNC do anything to change the 3 tiers of education in Pakistan? 49:30 How does it prevent rote learning? 54:30 Teaching General Knowledge in Urdu and regional languages 1:02:00 Teacher Training 1:06:30 Political considerations for policy 1:09:00 Educational Consultancy Business 1:15:00 Teaching Islam to minorities  1:20:00 Is SNC trying to convert Non-Muslims? 1:29:33 Overloading Islamiyat 1:41:00 Madrassa Education

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring reviving economy with imports and exports with the senior economist of World Bank, Gonzalo Varela. How did he end up being a senior economist for the world bank? What is the difference between the real exchange rate and the one we see? What is the world bank’s latest report on Pakistan’s imports? In the last decade, what’s going on with the exchange rate in Pakistan? Why it is important to have import and export parody? Tune in to know more on how to increase Pakistan’s exports and what are some of the export opportunities for Pakistan! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Gonzalo’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gonzalo-varela-6393b425

Live with Amna and Mariam Shafqat Goraya.  Please consider supporting us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thepakistanexperience   And Please stay in touch: https://twitter.com/ThePakistanExp1 https://www.facebook.com/thepakistanexperience https://instagram.com/thepakistanexpeperience   The podcast is hosted by comedian and writer, Shehzad Ghias Shaikh. Shehzad is a Fulbright scholar with a Masters in Theatre from Brooklyn College. He is also one of the foremost Stand-up comedians in Pakistan and frequently writes for numerous publications. He can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and Tinder.    Instagram.com/shehzadghiasshaikh Facebook.com/Shehzadghias/ Twitter.com/shehzad89

International listeners can support TBT here: https://buy.stripe.com/14keVU54r5hQ55S000 Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings Exploring property investments in Islamabad with the founders of X-state, Atif, and Altamash. What is X-state? How did they think of it? Why do people invest in real estate? What are different investments in Pakistan? What’s the legal aspect of x-state from SECP? What are the different types of funding in startups? Where does their legality stand? What is their grand vision with x-state? How do they make money?  Tune in to know more on blockchain tokens, parking money on investments, their first successful IPO, and Pakistan of 2050! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan X-state website: https://www.xstate.com/