Today's guest is another AI application entrepreneur, Chen Mian, the founder of Lovart.
His product has become another Agent with a certain global reputation in 2025 after Manus. The difference is that Manus is a general Agent, and Lovart is a vertical Agent, for designers.
Rather than saying he is a CEO who makes products, **his mental state is closer to that of a "fighting CEO".**
This interview took place after Lovart became popular. You can feel the overflowing joy of Chen Mian at this moment, after experiencing a series of resentments in the past 2 years, such as subsidy wars, product delisting, only 4,000 yuan left in the account, and failing to raise funds.
This is a snapshot of the mental state of an Agent entrepreneur in 2025. The curtain of the wave has just been raised.
2025, look forward to our common progress with AI!
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03:00 Quick questions and answers
**Wandering**
05:00 A 90s' 10 years of mobile Internet experience with constant job hopping
(Tencent, 360, Baidu, Didi, Mobike, Meituan, Missfresh, ByteDance Education, and Jianying)
07:02 Experienced two battles, the peak was when the battle was in full swing, and then it was a mess
13:58 Starting from 0 to 1 to make Guagualong, just promoted to Byte 4-1, and encountered the "Double Reduction" policy
15:18 Would it be better to change the choice?
**AI is here, I feel rescued**
25:25 AI is at least the invention of the computer, a change comparable to the information revolution (intelligence vs informatization)
28:58 The moment of being redeemed: "Hope is the antidote to all pain, and the meaning of all pain"
29:51 Avoid the main track of large models and the main axis of language, and choose multi-modality and creation
**2023: One second I won first place in China, the next second it was delisted, layoffs, and no money**
36:00 The first investor I met was Zhang Yutong
37:43 June-September 2023, I fought with all my heart! ——Burned 2 million US dollars in 3 months
39:03 One second I just won first place in China, the next second it was delisted, layoffs, and no money
40:45 How to view advertising? How to view Kimi advertising?
42:35 What is the feeling of being delisted? Crashing
44:09 The company's account only has 4,000 yuan left
45:17 What is the current customer acquisition cost? How to effectively acquire users?
49:38 The opportunity is fleeting, and the results must be expanded when the rhythm is good
**2024: Crazy investment**
50:05 2024 crazy investment, one round of financing per month, closed 3 rounds
52:21 We are very clear about the limitations of the first generation product liblib, and began to consider the second generation product
55:58 How was the second-generation product Lovart pre-researched?
**2025: Lovart is popular**
59:48 If this designer is called Lovart, he/she also loves art, which is quite cool
01:01:47 What does competing for the "world's first XX Agent" bring?
01:03:00 Why is getting an invitation code a standard feature?
01:03:56 After Lovart became popular
01:07:30 Know-how of AI application entrepreneurship
**This is the most!! awesome!! thing in my entrepreneurship!!**
01:19:57 I am a Gemini, sometimes crazy, sometimes very soft
01:24:04 Coexist with anxiety, just do it!
01:25:26 This is the most!! awesome!! thing in my entrepreneurship!!
01:28:00 But at this moment it's so cool!!! I was happy for a while - it's my simple happiness hahahahaha
01:28:32 No amount of money or job title can buy it
01:32:35 Innovation in unfamiliar fields is like repeatedly sliding a match on wet wood, igniting and extinguishing; until one day, you seize a gap, ignite the wood, and the fire spreads throughout the cave
01:33:58 At the end of 2023, I went to the Hillhouse office, and in the sunlight, I was in a daze
**Make a big scene, leave quietly**
01:35:00 Childhood: wandering, martial arts novels and computer games
01:26:01 I don't know where my hometown is, I can only keep moving forward
01:38:46 Advice for other AI application entrepreneurs
01:42:29 Final quick questions and answers
[Agent Entrepreneurship Trilogy in the First Half of 2025]
3-hour interview with Manus founder Xiao Hong: The world is not a linear extrapolation, but an important variable in the game
3-hour interview with YouWare founder Ming Chaoping: Today's Agent is like a gorilla just picking up a burning stick
Lovart founder Chen Mian reviews the past two years of application entrepreneurship: This moment is so cool!! hahahahaha
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Original title:
103. Lovart创始人陈冕复盘应用创业这两年:这一刻就是好爽啊!!哈哈哈哈哈
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